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This might not be the right place for this, but it seemed appropriate to me.

I'm not sure about the fediverse in general. I've been interacting with it here and there for a while, and of course, since the strangeness on Reddit, I've been interacting with it more. But something seems... strange. What do I mean? Well, I'm not sure exactly, but let's see if I can put it into words.

I think the idea of the fediverse is excellent and truly better than a centralized approach. But, to me, much of the content on the fediverse seems different than the content on other centralized networks. Maybe Reddit content is more relevant and engaging to me because there is just more to choose from. Maybe that's just what you get when you have some algorithmic influence. I can hop on Reddit and find something interesting and enjoyable to engage with very quickly. But to me, it's just not the same on the fediverse. My guess is that my experience would be better with a far larger user base--maybe some critical mass of users needs to be achieved or something.

I suppose the lack of users could be an appeal rather than a drawback--a community could form that's tighter and more engaged. But what's the point, then? Is it simply meaningful human connection? For some, might it be to have intellectual stimulation that we can't get with the people around us? But this just shows what I mean: the experience in the fediverse, to me, is an altogether different one than on the centralized platforms we are running away from.

My purpose for going to Reddit wasn't a sense of community or anything like that. Maybe it was for some of you! I just wanted to find and engage with interesting stuff, and that's definitely more challenging for me in the fediverse. For now.

What are your thoughts? It could just be me!

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[–] pindab0ter 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'm just confused by how I'm supposed to track communities from different instances. I know you can subscribe, but it's a lot of work to look for all the communities you might be interested in across different instances.

Am I missing something?

[–] th0th_Q 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right now Lemmy and the fediverse in general is suffering from an acute influx of new users, especially users who aren’t accustomed to how things are currently laid out.

I’d say be patient, give it a little time, and communities will probably settle into “de facto” leaders so that things are easier to find. It’s happened on Reddit before where subreddits merge or split as it makes sense.

I’m sure the same will happen with various communities or magazines in order to make usage a,d finding things easier.

[–] pindab0ter 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What would you say is better practice (from a user p.o.v.)? Create an account in each instance you want to participate in, or have one main account on one instance and subscribe from there?

[–] th0th_Q 1 points 1 year ago

One account, IMO. It’d be too annoying to manage multiple accounts across various instances. But I’m sure some people will prefer it that way.

But that’s one of the benefits of decentralized, federated services like this. You have some more freedom to choose how you want to interact with things. Hell, you could run your own instance and make an account there if you wanted. That way your account is truly YOURS

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Finding communities is a bit easier with tools like the Lemmy Community-Browser, but there's definitely some friction. After some initial time of subscribing to stuff, it's not so bad.

For me the problem is the content and the general feel of the platform itself. Free? Sure. Less toxic? Mostly. But certainly not all that engaging.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy seems fairly clean-cut and to the point to me, but it also feels a bit unfamiliar at the same time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you mean using Lemmy or the content that comes from Lemmy?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think some of both, as the people here are also a bit more on-the-nose and less dramatic. But there is something that is different here from Reddit, both in terms of culture and in terms of which posts you see. I like it, but I can easily see why someone might find this hard to switch to full-time over Reddit. As for myself, I'm bouncing between the two. I think that if some of the communities here (on NCL) become more active, which things seem to be moving in that direction, I'll spend more time here anyway. If Infinity for Reddit stops working at the end of this month, Lemmy will be the only thing I'm using while I'm away from my PC.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, and I’m not really one who wants to have a bunch of apps on my phone that I’m cycling through constantly to fill time. I’d like it to be one or the other if you know what I mean. I tried to get Reddit and lemmy all into my rss reader, but sorting through all of those posts with rss is tough.

I think I’ve figured out my weird feeling with lemmy though, and it’s just a technical issue - the home feed just needs to be sorted better so I’m not just seeing 6 day old popular posts or lots of posts from 2 minutes ago. If there could be better feed management for content, lemmy is the way to go.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think that was an issue with the hot sort that might actually be one of the fixes coming with the new update. After it comes out and we're running on the new software, let me know if things improve.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I saw that and I'm excited for it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'm still dipping my toes into the fediverse so I'm not too familiar with how it works, but I do agree that at a glance it feels different from reddit user-experience-wise. That being said I believe one of the core goals of the fediverse is facilitating discovery of communities and interesting topics, just not in the same way that it's done on reddit, so perhaps it'll require some guidance...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The algorithm is something with positives and negatives. It'll try to show you stuff you're interested in, and so it can be more time effective and interesting, but it's also insidious.

Fediverse software isn't addictive in a skinner box sense. It just kinda shows what people have posted, maybe with some weighting for votes on Lemmy. That's probably healthier in the long run

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know--I wouldn't call my use of Reddit unhealthy. It was always easy to use and it always had a place for me that never got out of hand. Now YouTube on the other hand... that gets out of hand real quick.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm mostly speaking of my own experience. Getting out of the algorithmic world was really nice. I saw a lot more stuff, and realized I didn't really care about a lot of it and that was an important lesson too.

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