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Do you think Serial Experiments Lain is worth watching in 2023? (lemmy.villa-straylight.social)

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Serial Experiments Lain is definitely a classic cyberpunk anime. But it's also incredibly slow. This isn't an action anime, it's a psychological anime. And I wonder just how dated it feels. Aside from the CRT monitors everywhere, are the themes still applicable today? I think the anime was enamored with the idea of what The Internet could become. But now, in 2023, does that message still hold up?

What do you think? For those who have already watched Lain, would you recommend it today to someone who has never heard of it?

Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5y4nQ5Y1V8
It's streaming on Funimation. For some reason it isn't on Crunchyroll yet, even though Crunchyroll and Funimation were supposed to merge libraries over a year ago.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

With social media, the message is more relevant than ever.

It’s not an action anime, it’s basically 13-part video essay but people should challenge themselves from time to time. And especially anime fans.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not disagreeing with you, this is simply me probing for more details.

Why do you think social media makes Lain more relevant? I thought Lain focused more on the wonder and magic of what The Internet could mean for humanity, rather than the social problems that can arise from actual internet usage. They definitely touch on someone portraying a different personality online compared to the real world (which is absolutely relevant regarding social media) but I thought that was more a function of Lain's deteriorating mental state than a cautionary aspect of The Wired. Granted, it's been a while since I've watched Lain, so I could be misremembering.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t think that Lain actually had an overarching theme. This is only my personal opinion but to me it was like a series of loosely connected musings on how the Internet might transform individuals and society.

There’s a lot of stuff there about the nature of hypertext (the references to Memex and Vanevar Bush) and the concepts of addressability and indexicality — this is the theme of connection and identification. But these also intimations of how the Internet could be used for control and surveillance…

If there’s one place where it all intersects I’d say it’s in the concept of technique as explained by Jacques Elul. Essentially, technology is not a neutral thing. It reshapes the world and society and makes us adapt to it.

I feel that’s a prescient warning about what smartphones and social media ended up doing both to individuals and society.

Just to be clear I am not saying this is **the interpretation ** of Serial Experiments Lain, just mine.

In the end people should watch it precisely because it’s so provocative and can be read in many ways.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ha, thanks! You definitely remember more of Lain than I do. 😁

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I loved watching it back in high school and I saw it a couple of times after. It’s one of those pieces of art that really stays with you like Ghost in the Shell, Twin Peaks, Silent Hill 2, or The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas.

I find myself just randomly thinking about something from these things often. There’s a real value to that kind of challenging and weird stuff and I think people should expose themselves to it more often.

I’d encourage people in the case of Lain to look past the slow pace and late 90s aesthetics and just let the experience wash over you. You’ll come out a bit richer.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is one of the weirdest and most interesting anime series, I'd always recommend it. It is definitely a bit slow at times though, but it was really fun and I'd still say it's worth watching. If you want something similar, but more action-filled (albeit slow and depressing as hell), Texhnolyze also exists.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Totally agree. Texhnolyze isn't as slow as Lain, but it is extremely depressing. I thought it was going to be about how sweet cybernetic limbs could be but instead it was more about the trauma of having limbs amputated. Definitely a good anime, but it wasn't what I was expecting (or what I wanted it to be).

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A masterpiece will be a masterpiece forever

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It might not be easy to watch by today's standards but then it was the foundation for those standards.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

True , in all kind of arts a lot of masterpieces are out of standard nowadays . It’s fine. I never have been into standards.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

This is one of the ones I always wanted to get around to watching, but never did.

I immediately went to Crunchyroll to add it to my watch list.

Then I came back, dejected, and saw you already pointed it out. Salt in the wound.