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I’m curious about what you think on how it will affect the Linux community and distros (especially RHEL based distros like Fedora or Rocky).

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have they given a reason? The blog post doesn't list one.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Reduce effort. They say there’s duplication between hosting RHEL and Centos, so they’ll just do Centos. Since Redhat becomes Centos anyway it seems neither here nor there.

[–] archy 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I guess "torrenting a Linux distro" will have a completely new meaning 😁

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They aren't going closed source though? Just not providing source to everyone. But everyone who gets binaries from them still gets access to the source code. Unless I'm missing something?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I am worried about the impact it will have on clone distros like Alma linux.
The code can still be accessed from a free developer account, but I'm not sure about the implications it will have on the legalities and licences.

[–] mirror_slap 3 points 1 year ago

I was there at nearly the beginning with Redhat 1 and kernel series 1.1.x and 1.2.x series. Redhat died when IBM bought them. My company has finally completely moved away - I pushed very strongly to dump RHAT - all Debian and FreeBSD now.

[–] humdrumgentleman 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

As a strictly desktop/personal Linux user, could someone enlighten me: What advantage (if any) does RHEL have over Ubuntu Pro at this point?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ehh, well it's something interesting. I've never really ever used RHEL myself on any of my servers. I do know some people that might be impacted.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Big Blue asserting their dominance. Unfortunately at the cost of some very fantastic community projects.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

As someone who admins around 200 Rocky 8/9 and Centos 7 servers, this is a little concerning.

But I have a lot of faith in Rocky and Alma, who are reportedly working together, in coming up with a solution to ensure they continue getting security fixes and updates.

Redhat are steadily turning into every bit as anti-competitive and, well, evil, as Oracle used to be. It's a shame as they used to do a lot for the FOSS world. Now they seem content to profit from it and give nothing back.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

anti-competitive and, well, evil, as Oracle used to be.

Used to be?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Aren’t there poison pill clauses in a lot of OSS licenses that prevent moves like this? Could they face legal repercussions?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@BuboScandiacus Hm. As far as I know it's not Fedora which is based on RHEL but rather RHEL which is based on Fedora?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fedora is upstream. CentOS Stream is fed from that. RHEL is fed from that.

RHEL (Stable) <- CentOS Stream (Dev Test Bed, basically RHEL Next) <- Fedora (Cutting Edge)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The discussion on the LWN post gives some insight into why this is probably happening. Most likely due to Rocky/Alma not contributing upstream while benefiting from Red Hat's work.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I.e. the reality of linux since its inception?

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