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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is going to turn into just bartering. Saudi has no food, China has no oil, Brazil owes China gazillions and they'll pay in soybeans.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is going to turn into just bartering.

If it avoids the use of the USD, it is still better for the BRICS goals.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do they get around that global commodities are stil priced in dollars

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Are you honestly asking?

By agreeing a price/exchange rate among themselves.

It is not rocket science. Humans managed to trade with each other for thousands of years before the USA existed, I am sure they will work something out.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

And that price/ exchange rate is still going to be tied to every other commodity, and energy, that's priced in dollars...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ok, so you agree to sell/exchange beans for oil.

If there is a difference between the value of that to the USD amount then there's an arbitrage opportunity.

Russia is already selling its oil at massive discounts to Brent crude or West Texas price to India and China. You think India isn't profiting when that crude has been refined and it loses its Russia label?

Oh look, it is.

This cheaper oil has found new markets — including India, which now purchases nearly two million barrels a day, roughly 45 percent of its imports, according to the International Energy Agency.

In addition to stoking India’s economy, cheap Russian oil has given India a lucrative business refining that crude and exporting the products to other regions that suddenly need fresh energy supplies. That includes the European Union, which has banned direct oil purchases from Russia.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/06/22/business/india-russia-oil.html

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Again. They do not care. Leaving the influence of the USD is the goal.

Are you too thick to understand this?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Lol, as if people haven't been trying to leave the influence of the dollar since the 60's. Hasn't happened yet

But keep up with the insults, maybe go learn something before you do though. 🤡

https://www.ft.com/content/daa1f8a6-3c49-426c-b08f-2c569837bd6d

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You really won't give up on this. Will you.

Why do you care so much?

Is your self esteem tied to the USD?

Is it that anything that paints the USA in a bad light a threat to you?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Ah, so when you have no clue what you're talking about, you deflect and make it about me.

I'm not American, I don't really have strong views on it, but these are just basic facts

You, on the other hand are making wild claims about unseating the dollar with zero references or sources

You're talking out of your arse mate, that's what bothers me. Idiots spreading bullshit.

[–] I_annoy_you 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you can just type your response without insulting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh, a joke account!

So glad you your dad was too drunk to pull out...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When they start to tell us there's no problem, there's a problem. The US dollar is in decline as the world currency. Too much debt by the US is making other countries nervous to hold too much of their dollars.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The USD as the world reserve currency has propped up the USA for decades. If/when that is no longer the case, the US is in for a serious reality check.

One of the never mentioned things about the Iraq war was that Iraq had announced it would sell its oil without the use of the USD a few months before.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

bay of pigs, Venezuela, etc

[–] I_annoy_you 0 points 1 year ago

they certainly used influence better than how china would.