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A new manifesto by the nonprofit American Compass capably identifies the problems facing the working class but stumbles on the solutions—especially labor unions.

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[–] RoxActually 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Always interesting when people barely making minimum wage or on welfare think Conservatives are looking out for them.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Its the same as people who celebrate a job or any job like that is the end goal. Like a job is a magical gift that business give that solves all of a persons problems.

[–] lynny -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The alternative is voting for people who openly look down on you as simpletons who refuse to educate themselves. All the GOP needs to do is pretend to care, not that hard.

[–] VoterFrog 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Compared to the Republican party who calls anyone on welfare or minimum wage lazy parasites? Who, to quote one prominent Republican senator and former presidential nominee, refuse to take responsibility for their own lives? Yeah, sure, it's the Democrats showing them open disdain for their economic situation. Hell, I'm almost certain that if I heard someone actually call a low wage worker a "simpleton who refuses to educate themselves" that it would be a conservative saying it, lmao.

[–] lynny 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Most working class people don't care about welfare because part of being working class is... working. The fact coastal democrats can't understand this is why "flyovers" don't buy into "progressive" policies.

The only two options are supporting people who want us to do things like pay off student debt and house illegal immigrants or republicans. It's an easy choice.

[–] VoterFrog 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Welfare doesn't mean not working. Huge numbers of working class folks are on, or have been on, welfare. The fact that you equate welfare with not working is exactly the kind of open disdain that I'm talking about. And it's not just welfare, if you've spent any time with conservatives you've seen the kind of disdain they have for anybody with a low-level job. Calling them simpletons who refuse to educate themselves is often the nicest thing they have to say about those workers.

Republicans have nothing to offer these people except decades of failed trickle down economic policy. But if they feel that voting Republican is the right move because they can't stand the thought that anyone besides themselves will benefit from government assistance, well then that's quite on-brand for the party.

[–] lynny 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Again, you seem to think working class Americans want to be on welfare. You talk to me like I'm not a working class American. You are doing exactly what I said, talking down from a point of willful ignorance.

You think any of us in the Midwest are going to forget what the democrats did to Bernie in 2016? At least republicans pretend to care about the working class, even though they're just as guilty as democrats at shipping or American manufacturing to China and Southeast Asia.

Working class people do not want to be on welfare, and thinking that is a carrot on a stick that you can dangle is dehumanizing. This is exactly why people like Trump and DeSantis are considered serious candidates. Coastals do not think of middle Americans as human.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Does literally anyone honestly believe they are or ever were? Fools and dupes, I guess.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I know a guy who wrote entire books about this back in the 19th century

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Damn, how old are you?

[–] Beardliest 13 points 1 year ago

They've never cared. How is this news to anyone?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the funniest thing about the rebranding of conservatives as Working Class party is their strange definitions of thing. The article mentions a "workers organization" which is just a union but unions are bad. Same thing with a working class. This doesn't include retail workers, office workers, people who pick our food or people who make minimum wage. They do include Elon Musk and Donald Trump. Working class is pretty much white men who agree with me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They’re producerists ([https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/producerism](followers of producerism)

Class collaborators with another coat of paint. The danger is that some of their ideas are good, like clawing back banker bonuses and sectoral bargaining. This can peel off the working class to support fascists.

[–] lynny 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No one is. Both sides of the aisle in congress would rather celebrate about one or two chip factories than to try and actually force American corporations to manufacture in the United States. Hail China it seems.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I always hate when politicians promote a single factory being built anywhere. It is such a nothing publicity stunt and people eat it up. I never understood why

[–] GonzoVeritas 4 points 1 year ago

In other news, scientists discover that water is wet.

[–] Dick_Justice 3 points 1 year ago

You don't say!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

In other news: conservatives aren't really trying to "save babies".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Looking at what any politician is doing I don't think either party is doing great here. Democrats are better but not by much and it isn't a high bar to be slight better than republicans on this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

you wanna see where Biden stands on worker's? look at the rail strike. he's what the Pubies used to be.

the only thing trickling down ain't wealth.