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Hello everyone!

I'd like to first start by welcoming all the new users who have decided to chose sh.itjust.works as their lemmy home instance. It's wild to think that its only been 4 days since I've decided to spin up this instance and we are already nearing 1000 registered users.

During these last few days I've welcomed users from all parts of the world who collectively have created nearly 50 new communities on this instance alone.

Today I want to be transparent and share some of my thoughts, clarify some rules, share some concerns, answer some questions and most importantly introduce the two new instance admins that have been added over the last couple of days. So let's get started!

New Admins

  • @[email protected] - Some of you may recognized this name from the lemmy.ca instance. This is in fact the same person. I've asked smorks to help out on this instance and he accepted. As the userbase grows having someone whos living some of the similar issues will be bring great value to this instance. We are stronger together!
  • @[email protected] - donut is a personal friend, new to the fediverse but has agreed to give me a hand should things get out of control. He's a little quiet right now but he'll open up soon enough.

Rules

As you may have noticed, there aren't a whole lot of rules. This might need to change in the future but my goal as of right now is to keep it this way. Being respectful to all users no matter which instance they come from, part of the world they grew up in, personal believe or personal opinion is a absolute must. Our world is already in shambles, we don't need another place for all of us to fight against one another.

  • Be respectful
  • No bigotry
  • No Ads or Spamming
  • No pornography

You'll may have noticed that a new rule that has been added. No pornography. When pornography is introduced a whole bunch of legal implications need to be considered amongst other things like proper moderation, DMCA notices processes, etc. 4 days ago I would not have thought this to be a problem however I am not in a position to hire legal counsel and implement the elements required to not get this instance shutdown. So for now, no pornography. If the demand grows for this in the future and there is an opportunity to fill this gap I promise I will revisit this rule.

Donations

I've had a few users ask me whether they could start donating. I'll admit I was caught off guard when that happened, thinking of how thoughtful people can be. When I started this instance 4 days ago, I did it because I wanted people to have a home away from reddit, a place where they could come and share interesting topics, debate, discuss and connect.

I'm by no means rich but I have chosen a career that puts me in proximity of things needed to run an instance like this one. It also does help that I really like servers and while some people might really like the latest limited edition sneakers from X company or the latest iPhone/Android device, etc..., I really really like servers, datacenters and networking.

I don't have a plan for accepting donations today but seeing how this community is growing, I will need to consider it soon. You know what's more expensive than running a lemmy instances for thousands of users? a failed marriage.

There are some other options that might be available such as looking for sponsors but I do want to keep this instance about the users and not about corporate so I'll need to think hard about this one.

Whatever is decided I'll make another post with the details.

Concerns

Let's quickly talk about concerns. Most of you already know that many of the reddit mods are orchestrating a protest by blacking out many popular subreddits. Most of us anticipate a large spike in traffic towards our instances during the period of June 12 to 14th. If any of you were around during the Digg days, you may remember how the migration from digg to Reddit went. The early reddit days was filled with outages, performance issues, and frustration.

A lot of people people are looking for what might be the next reddit. We don't knows if lemmy will be it but a lot of people will surely be giving it a shot. During that time many instances including this one will likely deal with some growing pains.

From a resources perspective my biggest worry for this instance is related to the storage. I have CPUs, I have RAM but when it comes to storage, well its an element that has been growing much faster than I had anticipated. I will be keeping a close eye on this however want to wave a little yellow flag so that everyone is aware until I work out a solution.

Q&A

What communities allowed to be homed here?

  • As long as it follows the rules above and doesn't get any DMCA requests or jeopardize this instance from being shutdown or me in trouble. Go nuts!

What communities allowed to be federated over/subscribed to?

  • Same as the above and follow rules.

What am I allowed to link to in communities or text posts?

  • Same as the above and follow rules.

What kind of images am I allowed to upload to the integrated image host?

  • Storage is something that will likely become a problem in the foreseeable future. You all upload a lot! That being said, don't upload copyrighted materials or anything that will get me in trouble!
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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I wonder if you could also just disable image/video uploads? I wouldn't personally see an issue with just needing to link imgur or other websites to display images on this frontend. Definitely going to be a problem soon otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm with Tendie. If storage is the problem, I'm happy to spend an extra 3 clicks uploading to Imgur.

EDIT: Oh... But there's also all the images on all the communities we visit being downloaded. That's not an avoidable issue.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

@Barbarian

I think they are only hosted on the instance of their own community and the other instances reference to it. My memory is shit so I could be wrong though.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

As yet another former Redditor trying to make sense of the decentralized model, there is something very comforting knowing "sh.itjust.works". Thanks for doing this.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks et merci! I'm happy to call sh.itjust.works my new home 🎉

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

I'll second that 🍻

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

Just want to say, thanks for this instance and thanks for this type of transparency. I’ve never given Reddit money, but if you do get to the point of wanting/needing help with keeping this going, I’m ready.

I was involved with moderating a listserv of around 15k users in the early 90’s. Most of you won’t know what a listserv was or that the early 90’s was pre-web. I can only imagine the issues you’ll soon be dealing with.

Thank you!

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

This is the only instance that instantly let me sign up.

Other instances sign up button at the end kept spinning and spinning forever to sign up lol. I got frustrated and gave up .

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Same here. A lot of lemmy instances are struggling with all the new people from reddit I think lol.

Most of the ones I tried just timed out on hitting sign up

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol. At the time of writing this, sh.itjust.works doubled again to 2k users.

This shit be cray-cray yo.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That probably comes down to the great name!

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I can attest that my selection process went a little like this: "Lemmy.ml is overloaded, I should pick a different instance. sh.itjust.works... ok you got me. I'm in."

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I was having problems with getting acceptance to other instances. I would apply, but it wouldn't let me in the app. So by the time I went back to check I couldn't find it again. I saw this instance name and was like Hmm... I wonder if it will just work... and shit... it did!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

That was exactly my thought process.

And also the point of this comment was to see if I was smart enough to figure out a new platform...

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hey Dude! I want to say that if your instance didnt exist I wouldnt have joined Lemmy. I tried to join on fmhy, and that was a disaster. So Im reallt grateful yours is up. Im not certain how lemmy works but I do have a homelab myself and I could host a a few TBs of data for you if it would help. My only complaint about your instance is that as a fellow Canadian, the no bigotry rule has been hard to follow as you haven't honoured our god given right to make fun of the french. :)

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

It's crazy that there are so any users already, but not a surprise. This kind of transparency is exactly what a lot of us were looking for, and it's the recipe for a thriving community going forward.

The "no porn" thing may upset some folks, but it makes sense. Porn can be a moderation (and liability) minefield, especially opening the floodgates right away. It could be a net-benefit at some point in the future, but until then it's easy enough to create an account on another instance that wants to take the heat.

And for what it's worth regarding the financial side, donations feel like the way to go. With everything Reddit is doing right now, and other platforms have done in the past, "outside money" is becoming the harbinger of doom for online communities. Plenty of us would be happy to pitch in to keep it in house, especially when you post those sexy resource graphs that would show exactly where our money is going.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When you say no NSFW, does that also mean that we can not federate to such communities from our account as a whole (to be clear, I hope we are not federated to some unsavory ones of course)

Or just that we can not host them here?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Yes, we'd like more information on this please. I chose this instance from this list partly because of the name, and partly because of the lack of restrictions, it was marked as "adult" in the list.

Does no NSFW mean that we can't view anything NSFW with an account on this instance? Does it mean just porn, or anything considered NSFW (if Lemmy makes that distinction, I'm not sure)? Essentially, what does it mean in terms of restrictions?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

1000 users already? Thats bonkers.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Hey, wanted to say thanks again for running an instance with a critical mass of users that's so easy to register on. This is the kind of thing people from the old site need if they're actually going to get on Lemmy. Big instances don't accept new users readily and small instances run into weird issues like needing to get the server to discover the "big" subs that people are interested in.

This one is at the size where the average user can just get in and go. You might say... shit just works.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Hi everyone. Reddit refugee here. I’m not tech-savvy so I’m posting because I’m a noob and testing this out.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Currently discovering Lemmy and had to choose a home. The name and the image helped my choice. Thank you for what you are doing right now !

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Hey, so it's my first comment on Lemmy, and I picked this instance specifically because I liked the silly name I'm still figuring out how everything works, but it doesn't seem that hard to understand.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Just to clarify, individual accounts will be in trouble if they subscribe to communities on other servers that break the rules? Or are they blocked by default?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess saying thank you for hosting is as worthy of a first comment as can be.

I still don't get every aspect of Lemmy, nor do I think it will ever rival what Reddit was and still could be, but I gotta admit that I like the small community vibe that exists now.

Excited to see what the future holds for Lemmy.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Just commenting here to say thank you for running an instance. I have found the experience of using this instance to be great. I think having instances like this one to accept new reddit users is fantastic and what Lemmy needs to be the successor to reddit. I have some technical expertise so I'm considering starting my own instances, to pitch in and help with the influx of new users. I don't know if I will realize this idea and if I do if it'll be open to other users other than myself, but if I don't, I am happy I have my account here, it's a really good instance.

Thanks again!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Just to understand correctly we can't subscribe to communities on other instances that break the rules of this instance?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

In theory, this instance could be defederated if it's full of rule breakers that cause trouble with other instances. So don't do that.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I gotta say, it's been less than 20 minutes since I joined here, and it feels... refreshing. Tried signing up on some other instances, but they don't respond, seemingly due to overloading. A decentralized network is gaining steam and I couldn't be happier. Thanks for firing up this instance, and cheers!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Thanks for such an awesome instance that to me personally rivals the main lemmy.ml. I will most likely continue to use this instance as my main account, and will definitely consider donating in the future, whenever you open that up.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Thanks for hosting this instance! Redditfugee making my first post. Keep up the great work!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

It's very gracious of you to stand up this instance with your own resources. I'm used to the idea of donating to my fedi home instances, and other fediverse regulars are probably the same way. Just give us the word if you do need donations down the road (ie. for storage upgrades, etc).

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If storage may become a problem, should users upload elsewhere and put links?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Our world is already in shambles, we don't need another place for all of us to fight against one another.

This, right here, completely agree ☝️.

No pornography

OK, but can you suggest any other NSFW friendly instances?

One more question. I accidentally blocked a community on my other account. How can I unblock it? It doesn't appear on the search cuz it's blocked 🤷.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Thank you very much for setting up this instance. I'm honored to be one of the first folks to join up. Let me know if there's anything we can do to help.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm thinking of spinning up an instance for my community, and would love more info on how many users you have vs server capacity vs monthly cost.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hey! This is something I am paying close attention at the moment. I plan on making a post that I'll periodically update sharing these details with everyone. For now there this post that I'll be updating before tomorrow with the latest graphs!

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Nice, I appreciate the communication and openness.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Reposting an earlier comment here for better visibility to help educate newcomers.

I had no idea how this whole fediverse thing worked until I read this comment. https://lemmy.world/comment/20357

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Hi y'all, just got here to have a feel for Lemmy. So far so good. Have been keeping an eye on Lemmy for a while, but the recent dumpster fire that reddit is becoming pushed me to register. Guidelines are clear and I hope the influx of new users won't be to hard on the admins. I'll keep an eye our for a donation option to help out.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hello everyone, coming here from reddit. Hopefully the federated concept catches on because I'm tired of the cycle of cool things becoming crappier over time to please investors or make a quick buck. I had mostly stopped interacting with mainstream reddit years ago due to the deteriorating quality of posts and discussions.

Some communities I'd love to see over here include: askhistorians, askscience, digitalart, gadgets, gamedev, hardware, indiegaming, mycology, nutrition, the 'learn' subreddits (ie learnmath, learnprogramming, ect), philosophy, pixelart, proceduralgeneration, and stopdrinking.

If anyone knows any good communities to 'subscribe' to that seem like they'd fit the kind of thing I'm looking for I'd be happy to hear them.

Hopefully joining a server of self described networking enthusiast makes this transition as seamless as could reasonably be expected lol. I like the rules here too. A very solid foundation to start on.

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