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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by dog_ to c/googlepixel
 

https://gizmodo.com/google-s-pixel-8-sim-slot-esim-only-iphone-1850759671

What happened to daring to be different? What happened to having options? What happened to creativity?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago
[–] ElPussyKangaroo 8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I wanna know what the benefits and drawbacks are of esims?

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[–] AlmightySnoo 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

For now it's only a rumor based on leaked renders, it could be that the renders simply didn't have all the details. I'd be very surprised if Google really ditched physicals SIM cards as that would definitely hurt sales.

[–] dog_ 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I dunno, they ditched the headphone jack when they shouldn't have.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Same goes for shipping power adapters with phones

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[–] Hazdaz 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

There was that news article just the other day that some obnoxiously high percentage of youth (80%?) wanted iPhones over Android devices. There is a reason why every other phone company copies Apple and it isn't just because it is cheaper to copy than be original - Apple has a lock on the youth market. In this particular case, they are copying something not aesthetics/design related, but if you are going to copy one thing, you might as well copy everything that Apple does. Or at least that is what these companies believe they should so.

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[–] Prethoryn 7 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Oh, look more Lemmy users not understanding security, again. All because they hate big Apple and change because Apple did something is bad.

I am convinced Lemmy users are more prone to let their bias get in the way of actually understanding the benefits of this change and the reason this is going away.

If you want to educate yourself.

https://darknetdiaries.com/transcript/118/

If you want a summary because you don't want to listen to a podcast or read the transcript of a podcast. There is a lot of theft occurring at the SIM card level in phones. This change is a bigger benefit than it is a negative. Is it annoying? Sure? Does it change how the phone functions? No.

Most phones can't dual SIM, and phones that do typically have issues. I am convinced this will quite literally not affect any of you, and if anything it protects the average consumer.

Pixel and iPhone have been doing eSIM for a while and I personally use a Google Fi number and First Net number. If you are wondering how the number transfer process will work then here is another article about how that is going to be handled: https://www.droid-life.com/2023/08/22/first-look-at-androids-native-esim-transfer-tool/

This means no one can just take your SIM card. They need to fully get into your phone. If you are worried about number transfer from telecom company to telecom company then you should know that is also already being handled and both Verizon and AT&T have implemented this change to their systems. You just transfer the number like normal and the systems generate an eSIM for you.

This is a win for security of your phone, you, and for your number.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago
[–] MeanEYE 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

eSIM kind of solves this issue to a degree. However it's up to network provider not to suck. In my country when you buy eSIM you get it on a folded cardboard which contains qr code. If am nit mistaken you can buy them on kiosks as well. So they work every bit as well as regular sim. Problem arises if you phone doesn't have regular Sim and country you are visiting doesn't have eSIM.

Then again this has fewer issues in EU due to no roaming charges.

[–] elscallr 5 points 1 year ago

However it’s up to network provider not to suck.

Which is why I want a hard sim card.

[–] randon31415 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How will all those Russian spies ever get to use all those copies of Sims 3 now?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Brought a 8849 tank 2 by unihertz which has a dual Sim card slot with a SD card slot.... I don't understand this trend of removing things from phones

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I would actually prefer this tbh. I setup my sim card for a new mobile plan from their app instantly. I couldn't do that with sim and would have to wait for them to ship. Unless you swap phones often, it's pretty much a lot better.

[–] dog_ 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That's your opinion, but if you had a previous phone, you'd just swap the SIM card into the new device. While I personally disagree with your opinion, I understand your points.

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[–] __dev 5 points 1 year ago

iPhones and Pixels have had an eSIM for ages, in addition to their regular SIM slot.

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