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VIRAL: UP graduate's “Sana hindi niyo na lang ako ipinanganak” post on Facebook (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by decadentrebel to c/philippines

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Inilahad ni Jaynard, part ng graduating class ng Bachelor of Science in Chemical Engineering sa University of the Philippines-Los Baños, ang pinanggalingan ng masakit at mabigat niyang hugot.

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[–] secondaccountlemmy 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

SKL.. yung mga seminar before wedding dito sa atin ang family planning model is GOD FFS. I dont think Im ready to raise a child pero tangina yung iba apat na and they are barely on minimum wage di ko alam pano naiisip ng ibang tao na kaya na nila ng ganyang responsibilidad with that amount of money.

[–] decadentrebel 3 points 1 year ago

May isa kami pre-wedding seminar na inattendan that was 8am-5pm. I was so sleepy the entire time and my attention was piqued momentarily by a couple who actually had an interesting story to tell. Namatay daw panganay nila na anak at nasunugan ng bahay and I was really looking forward to hear them explain how they were able to recover, and the wife just said "awa ng diyos nakaraos kami" and I suddenly went flaccid.

Pero in fairness, nakakatawa mga ibang pari. Some of them understand the irony of being celibates yet being asked to give advice on family but they do it anyway kasi they committed to it. I can at least respect that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Hindi sila responsibilidad, sila ay blessingu~

[–] tahann -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ang ibig mo bang sabihin, walang karapatan bumubo ng pamilya yung mga walang resources para bumuhay sa pamilya? Naniniwala ka ba sa eugenics?

[–] secondaccountlemmy 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Im not saying it's not their right but it is totally irresponsible. Medyo malayo naman na yung eugenics. You are in your right to do what you want so long as you dont hurt people in the process. This does not have an immediate effect but irresponsibly having children just hurts everyone involved.

Raising a child should be treated as a privelege not a right.

[–] tahann 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Alam ko naman na di mo sasabihin na walang silang karapatan. I was just giving you a chance to rethink and maybe place the blame somewhere else than escape-goating people who weren't given access to learn your sense of propriety.

I'm not saying may mali kang sinabi. Yan natutunan mo eh. Yan din view ko dati. It's just an easy thing to say. No need suriin yung sitwasyon. Basta may masisi lang, but it won't help them dahil irresponsible na tingin sa kanila.

[–] secondaccountlemmy 1 points 1 year ago

Seems like youre projecting quite a bit.

[–] decadentrebel 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Logically, it makes sense. I don't agree with it, though. Not only because it's classist that makes childbirth exclusive to those who are privileged, but it eliminates the poor from having a 50/50 shot at improving their living conditions.

Yung lola ko kasi walang trabaho tapos lolo ko naman public school teacher sa probinsya. But they were able to make it work and raise/send 5 kids to college — they all ended up having good jobs and other than my mom (who chose to remain behind), her other siblings migrated, turning them from walang-wala to middle class and even rich. So, while hit or miss yung strategy na mag-anak (ng mag-anak) ng breadwinner, I can see why the poorest of the poor continue to do it.

[–] tahann 0 points 1 year ago

When people say having kids is a blessing, some may find it funny in certain situations, but after ko makakilala ng tao na ang naisip lang ma way makatakas sa poverty ay magkaroong ng anak namakatawid sa middle class, iniisip ko talaga na blessing na sya whatever scenario. Serious un. Pinagdasal nya daw every day na yung pinagbubuntis nya ang aahon sa kanya sa kahirapan. Pinagbigyan naman dasal nya. I'm still pro-choice jaz to be clear.

This is taken from lengthy speech from FB. It feels like pahabol lang ito sa speech ng Eng'g grad dahil may ibang reading at nakulangan sa insight yung isang tao with a background in Humanities.

May isa pang critique ang pwede ibigay dun sa speech ng bata. While the kid tries to answer kung paano ba maging responsible parent, medyo nakulangan pa din ako sa sagot.

Imagine, nagsumikap ka para maging financially stable and then shit happen. You know, because the government or acts of god etc. Insurance ba ang isasagot natin? Hindi kasi natin masisigurado yung financial standing natin in the future. There's always a chance na papalpak plans natin.

Kaya important na aside from striving for financial stability, we also strive for a just society. Di nabanggit yun sa speech. Sayang. STEM kasi. STEM din ako jaz to be clear, kaya alam ko naging kakulangan ng education ko.

[–] lemmy_ph 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Keeping in context with the student's speech...

“Ensuring financial stability before having a child will provide them with the opportunities and resources they deserve."

“It will alleviate some of the struggles and allow you to focus on creating precious memories together."

Eto yung nakita ko na punto ng nireplyan mo. Pwede naman bumuo ng pamilya yung kapos sa resources, pero isipin mo naman yung consequence.

Sabi nga sa meme life is good but it can be better.

[–] tahann 0 points 1 year ago

While that may be true, I still think kulang or maybe problematic yung idea. I still think ensuring that the child is part of a just society is better than just ensuring financial stability. Dun sa isa ko nireply kanina. May kasabihan nga tayong, "It takes a village to raise the roof."

[–] tahann 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Puno ng hugot yung mga graduation speeches no? Kakasawa na yung cliche against-all-odds success story and work-towards-the-bright-future call to action na walang insights sa problems ng society. Panalo yung ganito walang denial sa problema.

Kunsabagay, ang daming kalat lilinisin natin kasama ng mga susunod na batches. Di malilinis yun kung di nakikita or idedeny lang.

[–] decadentrebel 1 points 1 year ago

Oh god, yes. Kahit mga guest speaker puros ganyan din speech, kakaumay na.

That's why the girl who posed with the "I can do all things through ME who strengthen ME" was okay for me, albeit obviously edgy.