Tough time to find a new coach with the Olympics just one year away. Short of getting a coach from outside of the women's system, like France did, I think they'd go with a temp hire, then do the long term hire after the Olympics.
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Thank goodness. I agree that it wasn't just one person -- it was Kate Markgraf too. Anyone who watched this team in the Olympics could tell the desire was there for the team, Vlatko just had them playing sufferball that we just do not have the personnel for.
The players were way more concerned with their political stand than winning the cup a third time.
Really? That's your take? Seriously? This is what you've come up with? Out of all the possible takes, this is the one that you're going with?
Yep, they won the last two, came in as favorites. Had good results leading up to the cup and yeah, my take is that their minds weren't in the game. What other excuse can you think of for the best team to loose?
I'm Brazilian and many times we saw our football team go in as favorites but not honor their country and their shirts. Instead they were focused on themselves and the results were always the same...
Well, let's start with your premise, and then get into other explanations. The idea that this happened because the team is "too woke" is a common right wing talking point here in the US that is rooted in misogyny. I can't speak for your own views, but you should be aware that the argument will draw strong reactions.
In any case, the argument makes no sense. Implying that a group of female athletes are getting some karmic reward, or that they can't handle simultaneously wanting fair pay or supporting LGBTQ+ rights is insulting. There do not appear to be any intra-team divisions about it, so it's not causing locker room strife. And their equal pay agreement was signed well before the WC. In fact, this is the least "political" environment for the team on a long time. Remember when they won in 2019? The sitting president was publicly criticizing their star player, they had long already been outspoken about equal pay and other issues, and Megan Rapinoe - player of the tournament - was long vilified by the alt right for kneeling during the anthem in solidarity with Colin Kaepernick and in support of racial justice. So, during an even more politically charged time, the team won it all. And it's not like they're the only team who have had off the field things to think about. Spain and England, the two teams in the final, have had plenty of turmoil and upheaval of their own.
So, the argument makes no sense. What we should be taking about is how the team lost by literal millimeters; if the bounce goes differently, maybe the entire narrative changes. Or the clear managerial shortcomings of their coach. Or the lack of goal scoring, even prior to the WC, which was exacerbated by Mal Swanson's absence, as one of several key players out with injury. Rose Lavelle's limited minutes due to injury and absence from the last match on a suspension. The narrowing gap between the US and other nations over time, as women's soccer has continued to grow globally. The systematic failure of the US soccer program, down to youth levels, which have resulted in a lack of success for our junior players in recent years as well. And on, and on. The sort of reductionist "it's all because they're woke" argument distracts from the real issues on the pitch and off.
Sure. First thing to me is criticism doesn't equal to anti-woke. Personally I couldn't care less to what each or all footballers think regarding politics or lifestyle choices or anything. I meant it in the sense that their minds may not have been in the game. They were the favorites and so there is an expectation (that's for any competitive sports) that they would perform well. The fact that they only didn't perform but got out early tends to mean something else was at play. I agree with you that this may be a too simplistic approach to the matter but more complex explanations aren't necessarily more accurate. Sometimes (not always) the obvious is the right choice.
Second thing, fuck Trump and his orange tanned ass!
Regarding "fair pay" and the lack of American support for the USA women's team, I strongly advise you to watch someone like this guy or risk being misinformed yourself (https://youtu.be/KHdRBrH2x2Q). Just to make sure I'm not misrepresenting here, I'm not claiming Nate the Lawyer is the absolute source for truth or whatever but he does a good job at showing the facts, leaving links for supporting documents and all round mostly unbiased opinions.
So, that's my point of view. Thank you for the well thought out response and I wish you a lovely weekend! =)
"Their minds weren't in the game" is not more simplistic than "years of underperforming paired with some bad luck against a well organized opponent who went on to beat another favorite in Japan the next game".
We know what's wrong with this team and it isn't a focus problem.