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Largely a sublemmy about capturing drama, from fediverse spanning drama to just lemmy drama.

Includes lore like how a instance got it's name, how an instance got defederated, how an admin got doxxed, fedihistory etc

(New) This sub's intentions is to an archive/newspaper, as in preferably don't get into fights with each other or the ppl featured in the drama

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After a thread was made in [email protected] asking to defederate from lemmy.dbzer0.com for "the facilitation of piracy, and copyright infringement in general which is illegal", the admins of lemmy.world deleted it prompting discussions on !asklemmy[@]lemmy.ml and !piracy[@]lemmy.dbzer0.com.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Well I am an American and I support American values, so as far as I’m concerned it’s wrong and illegal.
Also isn’t lemmy.world in America? Pretty sure it is since they did remove two of their communites for this very reason:

This is the dumbest detail for me to get hung up on, but lemmy.world is hosted in Finland on servers rented from a German company by a Dutch admin.

[–] DigitalTraveler42 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Also what American citizen actually gives a fuck about copyright law or Internet piracy? They sound like the biggest blue lives matter flag waving bootlicker, and they probably vote Trump.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

And of course as an American with American values, I believe that "wrong" and "illegal" are entirely overlapping concepts.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like I don't want to blow it outta proportion but this seems like a bad sign for the future of lemmy if it's that easy to just go around and convince someone to defederate.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I honestly don't think this sort of drama is a big deal. The users are empowered to do something about it, unlike centralized platforms, where drama gets a result like we see on reddit: nothing happens.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But people are just going to leave. Most people won't want to put up with it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

But they don't have to leave Lemmy, they just have to leave the instance.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Defederation is quickly becoming the first resort for admins.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't create accounts on different Lemmy servers they said, one is all you need they said. Simply find the one where the values and judgement of the admins wholly reflect your own despite there being no effective way to make that determination.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Huh, I don't think I heard that a single time. I did hear that you could access most content from any account, but I was encouraged early on to make multiple anyway.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's only a matter of time before lemmy.world defederates from everyone.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Good. Well not good exactly, but kind of okay.

We could do with getting rid of them, they're too big, and too much of a target, and everyone keeps using that one instance instead of spreading out. Completely negating any real benefit.

So if they are going to defederate from everyone, forcing users to move to a more diverse range of smaller instances, that's okay.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago
[–] InvaderDJ 3 points 1 year ago

According to LW TOS, it probably should have defederated if dbzer0 was basically entirely piracy. But, that user was an obvious troll and the lamest narc I've ever seen.