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When economists published revealing data about doctor salaries, the backlash was intense. Why? And why do doctors earn so much more in America than in other countries?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

12 years of college + internship?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It's a minimum of 4 years undergrad and 4 years of med school. Then indentured servitude as an intern, resident, and fellow which can add up to at least 3 years, but usually more than that. As a post-grad you work long hours for usually around minimum wage and doing all of the grunt work so administrators can make boatloads of money. The problem is not physician salaries, it's the leeches that are the middle men of hospital admin and insurance companies.

[–] phoneymouse 1 points 1 year ago

Often graduating with massive debt. By the time they’re making $350,000/year they’re just making up for lost time/salary they would’ve had in other professions and also paying down enormous debt.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same could be said for any doctorate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Their MD probably saves more lives than my math PhD :)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

And why do doctors earn so much more in America than in other countries?

Medical treatment seen as a public good for all vs If you can't pay, sucks to be you.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Some of them, maybe

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The more interesting question to ask is why do doctors essentially everywhere else in the world not apparently deserve it?

Do the UK and France simply hate their doctors more? Are they not as good? Presumably not, and so what are the economic factors that led to this state of affairs?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The UK and French medical fields are very different financial entities than in the US.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

america is the centre of the imperial core and has a privatized medical industry

[–] phoneymouse 2 points 1 year ago

There is a limit on the number of residencies. It keeps the number of doctors artificially low. Saw some recent news that they may change that soon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If its taking all doctors and averaging there are three things. Most doctors live in cities so more expensive areas. Specialists make more than general practitioners. There are many doctors who put in tons of hours (for example surgeons usually have set days or times they do surgeries and set times and hours to do office visits and then need to check in on patients post surgery. Usually my surgeons have done rounds of patients at least once during the weekend and that is with a pretty full weekday schedule). I think this amount seems about right. Should a doctor with all that schooling and having the talent necessary to even get in make less? Im not worried about the literal best and brightest who have sacrificed a lot making 10x what poor folk make. Its the ceo's making well over 100x and that includes hospital administrators and insurance companies. The doctors actually do the things that help us.