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    [–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Lemme tell you... I'd love to use your knowledge, and have gotten some great tips on other posts and forums. But if the answer to one more of my questions starts with "you just need to .." and then has an extremely vague answer, I'ma pull the rest of my hair out.

    That said, I'm building a PC right now that will be Linux based because fuck Windows and fuck Microsoft. Sincerely, a burnt out IT dude tired of hearing what fresh hell patch Tuesday brought.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    ~~Ah that's easy! You just need to install...~~

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    It happens soooo often it can be really frustrating. But to be fair I think the folks that hang around that sort of tech site or even here are so far ahead of me with Linux it probably feels like talking to a 5 year old in order to "dumb it down" for me. I'm still determined to learn though, dammit!

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    That may be kinda true, I actually regret not annotating what I learned along the way because I would like to be able to explain to others in the way I would have liked to get that information taught to me when I didn't know things, teaching/informing is difficult to get right because you often don't know the knowledge gap between you and the listener.

    Good on you for sticking with it! When I started I made my fair share of silly mistakes, still do honestly, I think we are all 5 year olds at heart anyway :P

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    Fair point. I've been using Obsidian to keep track of what I've learned so far. My memory for this sort of thing is pretty bad. Also to keep track of docker compose yamls I have in use now in case I need to rebuild something. There are similar open source apps out there like Logseq and Joplin, but Obsidian clicked for me the most.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

    Thanks for the suggestions, already heard about them, maybe I should actually go in and try, however these days I've been using physical notebooks for random journaling, it's kind of stress relieving

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    A few years ago I switched to Linux and I pretty much was like this: I saw a friend who didn't use Linux and tried to evangelize it, saying how it's superior, how everything you do on Windows is doable on Linux, how Microsoft harvests your data and how bloated Windows 10 is.

    That didn't really lead me anywhere except pushing people away from Linux because I was practically forcing it onto them. Average experience would be me helping them install Linux and troubleshoot some things (usually via googling for them), but as soon as they hit some roadblock that required more extensive troubleshooting to fix (say, a rarer issue), they'd just quit, resulting in time wasted on both ends. If you don't want to drive people away from Linux and be their dedicated tech support for hours and hours (assuming it's a friend rather than a stranger on the internet), then please don't evangelize it without being asked specifically about it. It's okay to suggest, but let people decide if they want to make the switch themselves.

    This isn't specifically targeted at OP or anyone in particular, it's just that this type of mentality seems to be literally everywhere when it comes to Linux corners in social media and this meme reminded me of it.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

    I'm not trying to push people to Linux. However it kills me to see people struggle and then not ask for help

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

    Libre software was a movement founded on collaboration and a sense of urgency. Sure you may have not have had the success you wanted, but the reality is that there is no safe, sustainable alternative to it.

    Also I reject your usage of the word "Tech support." You're teaching people how to use an operating system (and more importantly a philosophy) they've never experienced before. People are driven away from GNU every day by cheap expensive technology that preys on their vulnerability, you likely never made a dent by telling people about it.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] Overtheveloper 2 points 1 year ago

    Index works just fine (nvidia gpu, amd cpu)

    [–] Zebov 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    In all fairness, I usually get the opposite. I grew up building DOS systems, but haven't messed with command lines in years. Decided to build an unRAID server and dip my toes into jumping to Linux. If I ever get stuck, can't find anything, and need to reach out, I usually get either "look it up" or "if you don't know, you don't need to be messing with X."

    I'll save your username...

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

    Or just join my community [email protected]

    [–] tactoid 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    How is the compatibility with gaming on Linux? There wouldn’t be anything keeping me from switching if I could play most games.

    [–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

    Most of the games work. The only problem linux has right now is anticheat in some games. But you cann look at https://www.protondb.com/ to check which games work.

    [–] zloubida 6 points 1 year ago

    It depends on the type of game you play. Most problems occur with online games, the vast majority of single player games, even AAA, works on Linux, notably with Steam.

    [–] Clarke311 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    The more people that use Linux the more support it receives

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    As I said in another thread, I do not check compatibility anymore beforehand. I install and select the newest glorious eggroll proton in steam and it works. Granted, I play only indie games, so if you play competitive with anticheat I would stay on windows to be safe and avoid the hassle or suspended account.

    In regards to performance I don't know if I am missing out.

    Edit: https://programming.dev/comment/1457683

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    i want to install anbox (run android on linux), and it has modules that are required to be installed in the kernel (chamem? ) using dkms: first hurdle was that my ubuntu had a kernel version beyond 5.6, so it doesn't allow any modification, then learned that i could boot with 5.19 at startup, but still, i got another error that compiler used (gcc) is of different version than the one used with the kernel. all i wanted is to install anbox 😭😭

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I used waydroid on Fedora and everything works fine

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

    i ll give it a look, thx

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I feel you, back when I tried installing Anbox it felt like a nightmare, I think I eventually succeeded, but then I noticed how outdated it was and basically dropped it.
    Now there is Waydroid that is based on more recent Android versions and it has become super easy to install, even with ARM translation to have compatibility with most Android apps:

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    i am barely informed about any of this. tbh i like the linux community: everyone is willing to help and share a piece of info. thank you.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    You got it! And yeah, that's the nice part, nearly everyone tries to contribute, I like to think that part of it is to spite Windows and prove that Linux isn't so difficult like all the skeptics say lol, personally I just feel compelled to help anyone if I know I can answer their question, it feels wrong not to

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    ur effort is really appreciated! also using linux help safeguard the environement. if it weren't for it, my laptop would be unuusuable and become e-waste at this point. i am interested also in running ai tools locally: and it requires a lot of dependencies, and many of them run on the latest windows (which cant be installed due to a hardware limitation), on the other hand: linux is lightweight, comes with the latest dependencies and easily gets upgraded, just give it enough ram and disk space and u can see the magic happen.also with linux: helpful community, privacy friendly, full control of ur machine (if u want to) and thus less bloatware: in this case, u actually own ur machine, which is getting less common by time. linux is the future at this point.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Couldn't agree more! It's OUR OS
    soviet anthem plays

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

    discussing commie OS on top of commie social media!

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

    kernel version beyond 5.6, so it doesn't allow any modification

    Wut?

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    One of the best qualities of Arch and other Arch based distros, the ability to use the archwiki.

    It can be helpful when using other distros too but on Arch it's exactly the docs your supposed to use.

    https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Anbox

    From that wiki it says: Note: As of February 2023, Anbox is no longer actively developed. The developer recommended Waydroid as an alternative.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    well according to my simple serf beliefs, i thought that arch would allow more kernel tinkering, maybe thats why it was popular among certain groups, and jokes aside: if i am obliged to learn cui instead of gui, i might as well learn it the solid way (if this is really the case) and start using arch, idk if arch used different comands other than sudo and so forth..although its still linux, but the documentation is really helpful, also again: i really appreciate ur input.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

    Android is running on Linux.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

    I just made my gym bros use fedora

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

    slowly but surely in getting there