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Ok so beehaw.org defederated sh.itjust.works, and I post on lemmy.ml, they are unable to see what I post to lemmy.ml right?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I believe so. If I understood it correctly, you are really just commenting on a copy of the original post on sh.itjust.works so the original comment is on sh.itjust.works and needs to federate from there.

But I am likely wrong, so wait for someone else to respond.

[โ€“] lunarshot 1 points 2 years ago

Actually, I feel like this is correct and the explanation that best explained how I understand it so far!

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This was discussed in the early days of federation and the consensus was that a block should be a hard-block as most likely the offending instance isn't contributing in a good way on 3rd party communities either.

However it looks like the allow-list is less strict and lets comments from non-allowed instances through if they are on 3rd party communities. But I have not confirmed this myself.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

if you check my other comment you'll see i found this not to be the case and defed users are invisible even if on fed instances

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I am talking about the allow-list and not the block-list in my second paragraph.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago
[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

correct, beehaw and sh.itjust.works users can both read and post to communities on lemmy.ml, but they can't see eachother's posts or comments (because the beehaw admins defederated from sh.itjust.works).

btw, I (as an admin at lemmy.ml) am deleting this post from asklemmy because it is a lemmy support question.

[โ€“] WhoRoger 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If I understand this whole federation thing correctly, when a user makes a post/comment, that content is tied to their home instance.

So if the instance goes down, that content disappears completely. It's not cloned to other instances.

Ergo the same should be the case if the instance gets defederated - content made by its users should become unavailable to instances that don't federate with it.

Am I correct?

[โ€“] ItsYourBoyHalo 2 points 2 years ago

I don't know if Lemmy works in the same way Mastodon does, but in Mastodon the content is cloned to other instances.

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