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Leftist Infighting: A community dedicated to allowing leftists to vent their frustrations

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The purpose of this community is sort of a "work out your frustrations by letting it all out" where different leftist tendencies can vent their frustrations with one another and more assertively and directly challenge one another. Hostility is allowed, but any racist, fascist, or reactionary crap wont be tolerated, nor will explicit threats.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

because the majority of Americans are not reactionaries

lol

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes that is a debatable point. It brings up once again the old concept of labor aristocracy and we have to ask ourselves to what extent do the material interests that have been formed in the imperial core even allow for the development of true revolutionary potential...

I myself find that i alternate between doomerism and revolutionary optimism on this topic. On the one hand i am perpetually disappointed seeing how bribed and/or complicit the population of the imperial core is, their lack of class consciousness and solidarity with the oppressed peoples of the global south... but on the other hand it feels wrong and elitist to simply discard the majority of the western masses as inherently reactionary.

Because how can one call onesself a communist if one does not trust in the masses? As a communist i am part of the masses, i am not above them, i am not better than them, i am not smarter than them, i just happen to have had my eyes opened a little earlier than the rest, and if i could come to the correct conclusions and learn to reject liberalism, idealism and reactionary prejudices then so can they.

It would be easy to give in to the temptation to simply discard the majority of Americans as reactionary so that i could feel superior, especially as i am not American so i could pretend like my own country is somehow better, but frankly from what i've seen and experienced so far it's really not.

Sure, maybe their material circumstances will have to change first in some way before that kind of change can take place on a scale large enough to begin to make real difference, but it can and it will happen eventually.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Leftist infighting is just Rhainer Shea posting now, isn't it?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

At least it's not anarchoposting lol.

On one hand i have some critiques of his articles, mostly because he seems to swing from the depressed doomerism to maniacal optimism which do seems to colour his analysis too much, but on the other after filtering this he sounds mostly correct.

Problem is, from what i can say the US leftist politics is completely fucked up with everyone accusing everyone else of being feds all the time.

So i would generally refrain.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I mean... His articles often seem to generate quite a bit of controversy here, so...if the shoe fits? He has lately been writing a lot about an as yet unresolved debate that is happening among the (mainly US) left and from what i can see this ideological struggle will likely go on for a long time without a resolution. But the discussions that this generates are very interesting and i find i learn a lot from the informed critiques that get written in response to his articles. For me as someone not directly involved in what is happening in the US it has been very interesting to follow. A few of the responses sometimes fall flat but that's ok too, this is the leftist infighting community after all, what better place than here is there to express one's disagreements and frustrations with other leftists?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Another Centrist L

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