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What would be your top 5 most important and impactful product/service to switch from US to European?

And bonus question: What is one product/service you think is not as imlactful as another product/service or as others think?

My top 5(and choice):

  • Search engine (Qwant)

  • AI chatbot (mistralAI)

  • Map app (mapyCZ)

  • Mobility: selling US cars (this one should have easy EU choices)

  • Food (may be very hard for some, but I think everyone should invest a lot of time into this topic)

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Tech services neeeed(!) to be switched, since data is crucial in modern age. Oh also ofc don't use chrome based browsers.

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Search: French Qwant.com is shockingly good, results, even in images is identical to Google/Bing. it has no AI integration which is fine, just use mistral. Only image search need a little refinement like a search for more identical of selected imagery. .

AI: chat.Mistral.ai is French and does the job to answer ie more specific but not too scientific questions.

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Map: pleased with mapy.cz, ofc no street view but everything else, adding images of places is our job

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Car: preferably even trying public transport+cycling or just cycling for groceries is a lot already or go for EU car if still needed for whatever degree

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Food: this is a big topic, so I'll be general. I'd say don't be perfect. Go for the essentials you buy most. If you replace these, already rate that as a win. Because every brand is just a pseudo of a likely American corporation behind

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Impactful? It has to be supporting EU in the AI race!

If you have a ChatGPT or Claude subscription; please switch to paying for 'Le Chat Pro' from Mistral.ai, to help them grow. It's a very capable LLM, honestly not as accurate as Claude yet, but not far off, and cheaper at $14 USD (ironically).

It's also really fast, and has a superior image generator to others.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Biggest thing would be migrating to the Fediverse for Reddit / Twitter, and deleting every big tech account I had.

I've also migrated pretty much everything other than email (since big tech prevents you hosting your own) to my homelab. Gives me stuff to tinker with and it's nice knowing my data is fully private, at least until HTTPS is broken by quantum computers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 minutes ago

quantum computers powered by nuclear fusion! (theres this joke about nuclear fusion having a constant of 20 years from the current day until its finally usable, I kinda fear quantum computers are also a little bit far still)

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Switching from reddit and X to lemme and mastodon has removed all the racism and political extremists from my life. Such a joy!

Other than that, I'm on Facebook because of my sons football club has a group there and instagram to support my wife and receive the occasional meme worthy reel she sends me.

I ditched google and apple photos backup for synology years ago and am just now trying immich, which is amazing BTW.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Need to look into that one, I tried to get ino online file-hosts...and chose the worst one,

Resulting in losing all my photos because they forced me to pay and I refused since it was very predatory (mega)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Yes exactly, it's so much less violent!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

well, that makes us two :D (or 7 based on current upvotes)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Hmm, I haven't really switched much. Our car is from a Korean manufacurer, my email and webhosting providers are from Germany, I selfhost some services and use a lot of open source software, use a metasearch engine, OsmAND... And while I still have accounts on Facebook, X, Reddit, you-name-it, I've been trying to avoid them for years by now. I wonder if there's something left for me.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

For me it was from Twitter to Mastodon. What a difference!!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)
  • immich instead of google photos, self-hosted

  • jellyfin + *arr suite and Belgian streaming services instead of Netflix

  • organic maps, suitable for the day to day, but because of very long map update delays with no option for quicker updates, construction can lead to 10, 20 minute detours that could be avoided by updated data

  • Linux instead of Microsoft is a big one, and libre office, no adobe products, etc...

  • KiCAD instead of Altium for ECAD design. Altium is a buggy mess of spaghetti code and errors with no standards, but a ton of QoL, component creation, and productivity features missing from alternatives. KiCAD is fine for all hobby projects and small-medium complexity professional projects. Deprives altium of the ridiculous 4425€ per year for the basic license

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

have you tried multiple map services - whats your experiences been?

Altough mappyCZ offers like more than I expected (with rating systems and photos) I still feel like g maps has some strong points that make the experience of other apps feel little worse like street view, the strong community or just the surface design

So basically mostly only online/tech services is alot?

From the comments Im getting

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I honestly haven't had time to try a bunch of maps out, just OSMAnd and Organic maps, sorry

For your other question:

Well those are the easiest to switch, that is it. They don't sacrifice much time or quality of life but are far from the most impactful.

The most impactful things you can do are:

  • go vegetarian. That is literally the biggest impact you can have on the environment, but completely separate from that also it makes it much much easier for the next two points, but you don't even have to do that. Meat lobbies have a lot of power in many places. Eating veggie 1, 2, 3 days per week is already very impactful

  • grow as much of your own food as you can

  • shop for groceries locally or better: via farm delivery programs, (farmers markets food-wise are extremely often people selling grocery items or extremely expensive bread)

  • Learn. To. cook. We have more access to ingredients and spices that 100 years ago they could only dream of. Cooking is literally following directions until you get a feel for it. Make a core 14 recipes that you can pick from per week and then expand from there to 30. I have found that going to restaurants is kind of disappointing now because I can always make better stuff at home... I think I have had fast food twice in 4 years or so, break the chains

  • stop buying shit you don't need. Everyone does it. I do it still even though I stopped buying on amazon like 6 years agp. Marketing has rotted our brains with inventing ways to make us think that we want things we don't need. When you do buy things, do a ton of research so you get long lasting things from decent companies (where possible). Buy once cry once is real

  • buy secondhand where possible or practical, join community groups. People often will just give away extra materials or old things that they don't want anymore

  • build a local community in just your street, then neighborhood of exchanging services, helping out, etc...

  • repair things. Learn how to repair clothes, good socks, etc... And if you can, dive into hobbies of electronics repair, car repair, woodworking, iron working, welding, plumbing etc...

  • get involved with local politics, start new parties that reflect your community's values, and protest

These are just some of the most impactful things people can do. Just stop giving corporations money. If even 10%, 20% of the world committed to even just some of these, we would see a gigantic shift in corporate profits, and thus power, plus a huge shift in culture that would foster better companies with quality, long lasting products to grow.

The problem is that it is inconvenient, and people won't stand for being inconvenienced. Perfect is absolutely the enemy here. If 50% of people did 50% of these imperfectly, we would see significant change.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 25 minutes ago

well, thats less a theme of this sub :D

(altough i am very serious about this too, nice to see somebody else being strict with the consequences. I have declined a car ownership - all cycle+train and in emergencies car sharing - just to name another sector without commenting on all of your mentioned topics)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can't get through the stage of switching from MS Office to Libre Office especially that I kind of need Excel desktop version. Thus I'm still keeping Windows on my laptop.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

LibreOffice Calc isn't good enough?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

Well, it's good, but it's annoying with the interface and finding what is where.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Spliit as a replacement for Splitwise

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can't find anything with that Name. Would be interested. Splid?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Splid is good too!

I prefer https://spliit.app/ as it's free and open source. Exists on ios app store.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I am on Android and would love a open source/ European splitwise.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

see above! i believe they have it for android. Otherwise, Splid would

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

In the digital realm: Reddit and G-Suite were the big ones. Just completed migration of my private accounts. Both 16+ years). Lemmy, Proton + Nextcloud for now. Have not switched my business over yet, but it will be a quick process once I fully commit.

If for any reason Gmail gets blocked in the future there will be many people surprised by not only losing their email, but also access to their external online services (if they need the email address in any way to sign in). Of course also to any data they keep in the Google ecosystem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What do you use instead of Google docs now?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I tried Cryptpad and Nextcloud Office Suite and the latter is what I went with.

Two main reasons:

  • Main issue is that the Cryptpad UX just was inferior to Nextcloud office. Too much wasted space for my taste, dark theme was not great, etc. Dark theme is not 100% on Nextcloud either, but mostly fine.
  • Cryptpad uses OnlyOffice code for parts of their Sheets implementation. Onlyoffice seems to have obfuscated ties to Russia. Was even removed from the goeuropean database after people found out. Not implying Cryptpad has a backdoor or anything, but their FAQ does not go very deep and don't want to run the risk: https://docs.cryptpad.org/en/FAQ.html#what-is-the-relationship-between-cryptpad-and-onlyoffice TBH I read it as they only use parts for their front end code and did a lot of refactoring / adjustments. I would hope everthing is safe. But together with the inferior UI (personal preference) Nextcloud was the better choice.
  • Maintenance would also be more time consuming. Might not matter in a bigger business environment (would assume both are the same), but for my personal self-hosting it's easier to run nextcloud office (already running nextcloud since a few years and office was a one-click install instead of a whole separate stack).

Nextcloud does offer different office integrations. I use their Office bundle which can run a bundled small Collabora server (no separate setup needed, one-click install). For my personal self-hosted environment perfect. Would recommend a dedicated collabora instance in business environments.

Collabora itself is based on Libreoffice and their online UX is just amazing. Such a good use of screen real estate. Great product really. As I had Nextcloud already running it was an easy decision.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I just hate how I need gmail for youtube.... how is it not criminal

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I recommend FreeTube on desktop or NewPipe on Android. Tubular = NewPipe with SponsoBlock and Disklike button, but sadly does not get updated that often.

All a bit more work with keeping subscriptions in sync manually, but so much better experience than YouTube native.