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I hate the cloud.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Chris is your son. You should start paying attention to him. He's 29.

[–] normalexit 30 points 2 days ago

Too late, he left home.

[–] y0din 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

that is probably someone who is connecting / pairing your Zigbee bulbs to their network/mesh.

it has nothing to do with the cloud service.

if you are not using Zigbee yourself, they auto join open Zigbee networks after reset or when they are not connected to a Zigbee network, so if the other person is adding a new device he or she owns, the bulbs will also join his network in that process.

unsure if you can switch Zigbee off in the app or not as I have never used the app, so you would have to figure out how to do that yourself or make them join a Zigbee network you own.

hope this helps and hope you get it sorted.

(edit, added line about cloud service)

[–] ch00f 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m not intimately familiar with zigbee, but I don’t think that’s what happened. I only have one hue device (TV backlight) and it’s connected to/controlled by the Hue hub.

My home in my Hue account now has zero devices in it.

[–] y0din 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

my hue devices support Bluetooth and Zigbee devices to allow for management through an app or a hue hub.

even if you do not use it, it will be available and active, and it explains your issue. I have had my neighbors lightbulbs added to my Zigbee network before I kicked them out, and I will imagine his cloud service saying about the same as you experienced.

but, I will not try to argue this any further, I just offered a probable reason, as that was what you asked for.

good luck in your investigation 🙂

[–] ch00f 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Huh. Well thanks for the info. I'm out of town so won't be able to look further for a few days.

It's just really surprising that the system by default allows passers by to connect and manage your devices. I don't know my neighbors too well, but I do live next door to a Chris.

[–] y0din 1 points 23 hours ago

ignore my previous comment which I deleted and make sure your hue network and firmwares are fully updated. some devices where/are still exploitable today if the update is not applied.

https://blog.checkpoint.com/security/the-dark-side-of-smart-lighting-check-point-research-shows-how-business-and-home-networks-can-be-hacked-from-a-lightbulb/?theme=dark

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Can I introduce you to my friend zigbee2mqtt?

[–] ch00f 1 points 2 days ago

We have one of those TV backlights that syncs to the video. Don’t think I can open source that.