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I just finished building a model of a pirate ship and want the flags to be pointing the right direction. Should the flags be blowing to the bow because the wind is behind the ship, or to the stern as the ship drags the sails along?

Looking at paintings they seem to mostly be blowing to the stern, however there are some that have them blowing to the bow aswell; so I figured it'd be best to ask people who have experience.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Depends on the point of sail, that is, the direction the ship is sailing relative to the wind.

Broad reach / running downwind - the flags point toward the bow.

Close-hauled / tacking upwind - the flags point at an angle, somewhat toward the stern.

Go by the diagram here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_of_sail

The flags will point in the direction of the wind arrow. ⬇️

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

I think it might be a bit of wishful thinking that a square rigged ship could run close hauled. At least that's my impression of pirate ships.

[–] haulyard 6 points 2 years ago

Go off the angle of the sails. The flag should follow apparent wind direction.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Also what I wanted to add not all paintings are physically accurate on sails and wind direction.

I once played a game of from how many directions does the wind blow on this painting, and this was in a maritime museum with paintings depicting sea battles. (and a lot had the "problem" of every ship had it's own wind)

so what I wanted to say, is if you aren't trying to depict really accurate the ship anyways. (as to me Pirate ship sound like a really bad generalization of ships types.) Do whatever you like looking at the best. And otherwise, follow u/swope 's advise.

[–] AlataOrange 1 points 2 years ago

I totally get that, the main reason I went to paintings for any kind of answer was for lack of better alternatives. Beyond that I'm fully aware that the model I have is a cartoony thing, not at all representative of any craft to have been realistically sailed. The main goal here was to learn and to get more information because I intend to redesign the model and kitbash it to make something still cartoony but more realistic in proportion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Depends on what point of sail the ship is going in. The flag could be blowing any number of directions. What is your model rigged for?

[–] AlataOrange 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's a very cartoony small brig I think. Realistically it's meant to look more like the idea of a ship than anything that could actually work as one.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

In that case, personally I'd make the flag blowing toward the stern to show that it was beating up wind. I'd upvote a picture of the completed model if you upload it 😁