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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Humanity as individuals - largely good

Humanity in tribes - horrendous monsters

[–] edgemaster72 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I can't find the quote but it was something about a person can be good, people on the otherhand are loud, annoying, and panicky. Or something to that effect.

Found it, it's from Men in Black: "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals"

[–] DarkFuture 7 points 6 days ago (3 children)

For humanity's entire existence a very small percentage of actually intelligent people have carried the rest.

Humanity, as a whole, is a dumpster fire. If the universe trended toward good we'd have an asteroid with our name on it very soon.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

a very small percentage of actually intelligent people have carried the rest

That's both historically and empirically obviously untrue. The sheer volume of professional labor necessary for our society to function smoothly requires legions of intelligent people showing up every day to solve problems particular to their rarefied areas of expertise. Your cell phone doesn't work, your car doesn't start, your pipes don't carry water, your lights don't turn on - hell, in more than a few cases your heart doesn't even beat - without these armies of professionals working, often entirely invisibly, to keep things moving.

The world does not turn without the strong arm of proletariat labor moving the wheel.

But individual intelligence isn't enough on its own merits. Humanity needs a guiding light to function morally and productively. The professionals down at the power plant keeping the lights on don't know if they're powering your dishwasher or your electric chair. Their genius is wasted if the surplus they produce is squandered or applied with malicious intent. Attributing their actions to stupidity is naive, as you're ignoring their professional role in order to indict them for actions they have little meaningful control over. Appealing for their collective punishment only plays into the wickedness that you claim to oppose.

What we have in our modern moment is a very small percentage of nefarious people controlling our means of communication and observation. Monopolies of print and broadcast media limit what we are allowed to observe. Reams of propaganda, distributed physically and electronically, pollute our ability to understand the material world. Rational impulses are distorted by fearmongering. Prudent decision making is complicated by deceit and fraud. Our homes are enclosed, our labor is commodified, and our ability to organize against it is criminalized thanks to the actions of the few in an effort to predate on the many.

Believing that we lack a critical mass of "smart" people is a huge mistake, because it demands too much from singular human intelligence and too little from the social structures that perpetuate history, culture, and identity. What we lack in this moment isn't brilliance. We are thick with geniuses all competing against one another in a zero-sum game. What we lack is a cohesive and durable community. One that sees the virtue of charity and compassion. One that treats the most vulnerable as generously as the most valuable.

You don't need a genius to see the merits of a neighborhood full of people you can trust. You don't need to be a genius in order to survive a world where you love your neighbors more than you fear them.

[–] DarkFuture 1 points 5 days ago

I'm not talking about people going to work and doing their jobs. I'm talking about the truly intelligent that figure out new solutions to problems. That invent new methods.

The point I'm making is that most humans throughout history have not been particularly intelligent. We see examples of this all around us, all the time. It's a small percentage of truly intelligent individuals that have pushed us forward so we're not just a bunch of hardworking hunter gatherers.

What we have in our modern moment is a very small percentage of nefarious people

A majority of voting Americans just voted for a felon rapist who illegally attempted to overturn an election. Add a TON of people so unintelligent they didn't even exercise their right to vote. That's not a small percentage. That's a significant percentage of nefarious/ignorant humans. Those people don't get a pass because some bad actors are spreading misinformation. I received a public education and I'm not ignorant enough to fall for propaganda. Resisting propaganda is an individual's responsibility. Especially now that all human knowledge is freely available. Ignorance isn't an excuse anymore.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

we’d have an asteroid with our name on it very soon

Good news

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Humanity's existence is a pyramid. Without that base of suffering at the bottom, none of what goes on at the top is possible.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 3 points 6 days ago

A couple of assholes get their hands on a significant modicum of power and begin exercising asshole-ishness to the Nth degree

Damn, this is definitely a problem with all humans equally.

I am very smart.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

I wish I could say the same. Unfortunately, I'm going through things now and I suppose it's my own fault for expecting enough of us to be better that it all evens out in the end.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

That's defeatist

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago (13 children)

If it makes anyone feel any better, I’m pretty sure the election was very effectively rigged. So I think it’s by far and away most likely that a large majority of voters did not, in fact, vote for this.

[–] DarkFuture 14 points 6 days ago (3 children)

We should probably spend years whining and crying about stolen elections like cuntservatives did. Worked for them.

[–] chaogomu 8 points 6 days ago

The violent insurrection with no punishment afterward seems like a fun time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

I dunno, it looks like it did ultimately work for them

[–] Szyler 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That would just be continuing the false claims, just to achieve a result, but that false claim will then just continue with no end.

A short sighted strategy, unfortunately

[–] DarkFuture 2 points 5 days ago

Yeah, but the reality is Americans are profoundly stupid and you have to lie to them to get votes.

This is our society. I'm just reacting to it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

Abstinence demonstrates a lack of critical thought. They chose this path. They are complicit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

I really do not want to go down that path.

But also, weren't there several bomb threats at voting facilities? Did everyone evacuate? Who was watching the machines?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Not enough questions were asked about Elon's involvement in this.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

Elon doesn't even have to be involved, is everyone forgetting the news of mail-in ballot boxes being trashed and vandalized days before the count? How many of those people actually got to recast their ballots?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago (11 children)

That’s because many of them chose to stay home. That’s also a choice.

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