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The whole idea is a privacy minefield, so it would have to be very carefully designed and implemented, of course making it opt-in. But still, should we even pursue this idea?

So that, for example, even if I met someone just briefly, they can still later see the contact information that I am willing to provide.

Wouldn't that make it much easier to connect with people who live close to you?

Are there any relevant projects or ideas that already exist?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does using your mouth not work lol

[โ€“] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm socially neurotic about bothering other people. I hate the idea of forcing myself into someone else's day by talking at them.

An app would kind of solve that, because they'd have to have their phone set to accept my advances.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then why are you wanting to exchange information if you don't want to talk to them. Also that'd be weirder to do that, where it's a lot more socially comfortable and acceptable to just talk in person if you can. It's much better to get consent in person then through privacy settings through technology

[โ€“] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I want to talk to them! I am afraid of ruining their day by being an unwanted intruder.

I won't get consent in person, I'll just never talk to anyone and die alone. ๐Ÿ‘

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

How is creepily adding some stranger through an app any different lol. Like I said, having a random unknown person add you without seeing what they're like is weird and already says a lot about the person that they're probably creepy if they don't want to talk to you in person instead. That's something you kind of have to learn in life. Technology is not a replacement for that. Sorry to be blunt but you literally will die alone if you don't learn to do this.

[โ€“] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What's creepy about it? They chose to leave their phone profile open for strangers, which means they have flagged themselves for introduction. Just a little becon that basically says "Hey! I'm here and available! This is who I am and what you can expect. Don't be afraid ๐Ÿ˜Š "

If everyone who was open to friendly conversation with strangers had a way to signal to me that I won't ruin their day by talking to them it would really help my anxiety.

It's not a matter of learning. It's a matter of mental illness. It is a fact that some people do not want to be bothered, and I'd basically rather kill myself than bother them and there's no way to fucking know without bothering them first. I take medicine for it but it's not magic - a tool to help my mental disability would be genuinely helpful.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's uhhh, you should definitely see a therapist. It's not a fact. You need to adapt to the world, not have the world adapt to you, sorry to say it. It is very alarming to read that lol.

[โ€“] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There is nothing wrong with using technology to cope with living with disability.

Do you think I've never seen a therapist? You can't therapy away every mental illness, you learn to cope with it. It is a fact that some people do not want to talk to me. You can not deny this! There are people who would rather not be bothered than have me intrude into their life and try to be their friend, some of them would even hate it. Unarguable. Or do you expect me to believe that everyone on Earth wants to be my friend? ๐Ÿ™ƒ

I and my therapist agree the only nontech solution is to accept that, sometimes, you're going to annoy people by intruding on their day without invitation. That's what everyone else does because that's how you make friends. You can't always wait for someone else to make the first move, sometimes you have to take initiative or you die alone because you never reach out in the first place. I understand this is an irrational and neurotic brainworm that is ruining my life.

I'd also rather die than do that, so yeah, a technological solution is preferable.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean this is moving away from the point of the technology talk, but the words you're using says a lot. Words like intruding, without invitation, annoying people, deciding that people don't want to talk to you for them. It's like you view social interaction as putting an undue burden on to people. It's like you're deciding you're unlikeable for them. Thinking stuff like that affects your body language, your words, how you say things. On top of your appearance and all that too. You got to work on your internal battles first and realize you're not being a burden talking to someone. Did you think that when replying to me, or care what I think about you? Hopefully not. Channel that same energy irl. The difference is, rejection irl definitely hurts more then being called cringe thru online text

[โ€“] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're basically right, and all I'm saying is that a technological solution like: my phone buzzes and tells me "the person over there is open to meeting new people and isn't busy at the moment" would be rad as hell. Just a little reassurance that I'm not an intruder so I don't get caught in my own head and trip over my own neurosis.

Also, online is totally different from IRL. We're all just lines of text on a screen here; NPCs in the posting RPG. Even better, by responding you've already proven that you're open to responses.

... although I just realized we can't disable inbox replies and now I'm freaking out! ๐Ÿ˜‚

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Telegram messenger has this feature, but I don't remember any of my friends having it on.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I turned it on once. It was all alt right groups whose motives were to take over the local parks with violence, and some nudist group that appeared to be offline. I turned the feature off and went back to the friendly furry faces of normal telegram. :P

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Fuck no. If I fucking wanted to talk to those fucks I'd fucking talk to them. If I fucking wanted them to have fucking information about me, I'd fucking give it to them.

There is not enough fucking fucks to emphasis how fucking bad, how fucking stupid, and how fucking deranged this idea is.

fuck