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I don't anything about the guy but on a surface level, Pakistan can imprison a corrupt leader and the US can't? We're so pathetic these days.
No I don't think you understand. He isn't corrupt. The military basically controls the government in Pakistan and they didn't like him and tried to remove him from power. They even shot him in the leg. Imran Khan was democratically elected and is very popular. The government has had to make huge efforts to censor the media to keep the uproar at bay. Its banned on the news to mention Imran Khan.
You're right, I don't understand which is why I put the disclaimers. Military control of government doesn't seem to be an uncommon thing in the middle east.
yeah I didn't mean that in an accusatory way.
The US staged a coup in Pakistan to overthrow Imran Khan because he would not send artillery munitions to Ukraine.
Imran Khan is innocent.
Nothing says 'coup' quite like [checks notes] a vote of no-confidence
A great article about the no-confidence coup can be found here https://theintercept.com/2023/08/09/imran-khan-pakistan-cypher-ukraine-russia/
Jeffrey Sachs wrote a good summary about it. https://www.jeffsachs.org/newspaper-articles/a8dt7m63khdptc8hw6c8xej2yxwaz5
Nothing says coup like trying to imprison Imran Khan on bogus charges like his marriage papers being invalid.
Nothing says coup like trying to imprison Imran Khan on bogus charges like his marriage papers being invalid.
Is that what happened back in 2022? (PROTIP: it is not)
Maybe the US tried to dissolve the democratically elected legislature to avoid them voting against their interests?
Oh, wait, that was what Imran Khan tried to do when the vote began.
"Imran Khan is mistreated by the current government ran by his spiteful opposition" and "America did not pull a coup in Pakistan" are not mutually exclusive positions.
In the meeting, according to the document, Lu spoke in forthright terms about Washington’s displeasure with Pakistan’s stance in the conflict. The document quotes Lu saying that “people here and in Europe are quite concerned about why Pakistan is taking such an aggressively neutral position (on Ukraine), if such a position is even possible. It does not seem such a neutral stand to us.” Lu added that he had held internal discussions with the U.S. National Security Council and that “it seems quite clear that this is the Prime Minister’s policy.”
Lu then bluntly raises the issue of a no-confidence vote: “I think if the no-confidence vote against the Prime Minister succeeds, all will be forgiven in Washington because the Russia visit is being looked at as a decision by the Prime Minister,” Lu said, according to the document. “Otherwise,” he continued, “I think it will be tough going ahead.”
Lu warned that if the situation wasn’t resolved, Pakistan would be marginalized by its Western allies. “I cannot tell how this will be seen by Europe but I suspect their reaction will be similar,” Lu said, adding that Khan could face “isolation” by Europe and the U.S. should he remain in office.
Is that supposed to reinforce the idea that it was a 'coup'? A diplomat saying that a prime minister's diplomatic policy will create diplomatic repercussions?
lmao
Direct threat to make a government to overthrow their leader is 'diplomacy'.
Direct threat to make a government to overthrow their leader is ‘diplomacy’.
The direct threat of... damaged diplomatic relations?
Yes blackmail.
Yes blackmail.
Jesus Christ.
Do you also consider the US sanctions against the ICC to be 'diplomatic pressure'? That is the argument you are making.
Do you also consider the US sanctions against the ICC to be ‘diplomatic pressure’? That is the argument you are making.
Would you like to cite the part where sanctions were threatened?
Would you like to cite the part where sanctions were threatened against Pakistan, the actual topic being discussed?
Sorry I slipped on your slope
You don't know what you are talking about. Members of parliament who didn't vote for no-confidence had their private moments leaked. Which is considered a huge disrespect in pakistan. Others were offered money. So basically the whole carrot and a stick spiel.
Military had dirt on basically everyone.