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    The NSA, the original primary developer of SELinux, released the first version to the open source development community under the GNU GPL on December 22, 2000.[6] The software was merged into the mainline Linux kernel 2.6.0-test3, released on 8 August 2003. Other significant contributors include Red Hat, Network Associates, Secure Computing Corporation, Tresys Technology, and Trusted Computer Solutions.

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    [–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (5 children)

    do i remember correctly that android is based on se?

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    [–] MrEff 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    Confirmed! Linux has NSA back doors! This is why you should use Windows!

    Lol.

    [–] AdrianTheFrog 3 points 5 days ago

    btw if anyone is wondering why this is a bad idea

    (this was >10y ago and "just" internet communications but it gives an idea)

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    [–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

    For people interested in the subject. Read This Is How They Tell Me the World Ends: The Cyberweapons Arms Race

    TLDR current day software is based upon codebases that have houndreds of thousands lines of code. Early NSA hacker put forward an idea 100k LoC program will not be free of a hole to exploit.

    To be a target of a 0-day you would have to piss off state level actors.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

    If "privacy friendly" or "secure" were regulated terms most linux distros would have been sued/fined into bankruptcy for deceptive marketing.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    Kinda think this would be entirely dependent on the imaginary regulations, so comments like this are essentially nonsense.

    Just look at the bastardisation of current regulated terms

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    I have a feeling this is just looking for a clever way to say "but Linux isn't as secure as everyone thinks", which sure, yes. But also, not many people, especially knowledgeable people, are claiming that Linux is "secure".

    And when it comes to "privacy friendly" that depends so much on what flavour of Linux you are using (Ubuntu? a minimal Arch? Tails?) that it's not really something you can make broad statements about.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

    And even then you could make Ubuntu the most privacy focused, secure distro ever with a little work - just as you could rip tails open and allow access to the world.

    So yeah if they were regulated as the other commenter said, they'd essentially becomd illegal to use cause what system is 100% secufe

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

    There are regulations, they are either inadequate or aren't being applied to products or services used by regular consumers. https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/11062200

    Also which terms? You can't call yourself an MD, RN or an Attorney etc in US and many other countries if you aren't one. You can't market drugs that haven't been approved by the FDA. Also bastardisation isn't a justification for no regulation.

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 5 days ago (7 children)

    But Linus said he was never approached by the US for a backdoor. He was so sure of it, lol.

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