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Electric Vehicles

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Electric Vehicles are a key part of our tomorrow and how we get there. If we can get all the fossil fuel vehicles off our roads, out of our seas and out of our skies, we'll have a much better environment. This community is where we discuss the various different vehicles and news stories regarding electric transportation.

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[–] Anticorp 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I was an early adopter, and I went back to gas. My car only had like a 30 mile range though, which was cut in half during the winter. I'd consider that new Mustang SUV though, that looks like a bad-ass vehicle.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

My parents bought one of the mustangs. They are pretty conservative people who live in FL now. My pop says it is his second favorite car ever behind the 98 BMW 540i he had and they’ve owned a lot of cars. It’s wild to me that he loves this electric car so much.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I was talking to someone I know well about this, she was in an EV and went back to petrol. Two factors, range anxiety and the EV was "soulless"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Everyone i know who had actually owned an EV has realized that range anxiety is largely a myth.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That's the same kind of thing people say about vinyl records vs CDs, digital video vs film, 48+ vs 24fps.
All I hear with that kind of complaint is: "It's too good, I'm not used to it. I want what I'm used to, even if it's worse."

[–] brygphilomena 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Vinyl I find is a much more holistic experience than makes listening to music easier for my ADD.

It becomes a process where I can feel the record, read the liner notes, enjoy the album art, and since it's not easy to just skip a track or change to a different artist I find I'll actually listen to an entire album instead of just individual songs.

As for cars, I don't like a lot of modern regulations forced into vehicles. I really like small, simple machines with analog controls that are intuitive to use. Modern cars in general have grown in size that make them less pleasurable to drive. They also are rife with touchscreens and so many systems are so interwoven with software that it becomes a pain in the ass to modify them.

I don't want something that sings at me if I put a bag on the back seat but don't fasten a seat belt. I don't want something that alerts me that I'm speeding. I don't want an infotainment screen that controls my AC which makes it hard to upgrade my stereo. I don't want my car to have a cellular antenna. I don't want "software updates" that change how my car runs. I don't want an entire system locked behind DRM.

I want a car that looks good, not like current copy and pasted of each other's makes. CR-V? Rav-4? Rogue? They all look like similar piles of plastic.

Cars are something I actively enjoy fixing and working on. They are a hobby and a love. Modern vehicles are turning into iPhones where everything is decided and controlled by the manufacturer.

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[–] TrickDacy 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Except all the things you mention are about sensory fidelity and you can make an argument for either. The only "fact" involved in CDs vs vinyl is that the latter is less convenient. The audio warmth being more pleasant to someone's ears is not something you can argue with, it just is for them.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That's exactly my point.
People like the noise and feel of an engine, even if it's objectively worse at doing the primary thing it's supposed to do.

All the things I mentioned have the exact same issue. They have more detail and more accurate reproduction. Which are objectively the point of their medium. But people want less detail and accuracy, because they "like it."

[–] TrickDacy 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Okay. My apologies. Rather than stating that as a fact, I thought you were judging it. My mistake.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not judging people who prefer vinyl, and other objectively worse things.
I'm absolutely judging people for calling them better, in an attempt to justify why they like them.

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[–] Anticorp -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Vinyl is actually higher fidelity than CDs though. That's not subjective, it's scientifically verifiable.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's not. The benefits are all hypothetical. In practical demonstrations, records have dramatically less dynamic range and more distortion. It's not even a contest.

[–] Anticorp -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

CDs have a digital sampling rate of 44.1 KHz. Vinyl is a continuous waveform as an analog medium, but if you were to digitize it, the equivalent sampling rate would be at 96 KHz or higher.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Typically I prefer my appliances soulless.

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[–] Theoriginalthon 35 points 1 day ago

The soul of a petrol/diesel car, what's that new strange noise, did I change the oil recently, is the cam belt about the explode, acceleration until you have to change gear, inconsistent acceleration, don't cook the brakes going down hill, did I remember to sacrifice to the car gods with morning, how I wish my EV had a soul

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

I've looked at a few EVs, and I do keep going "Well not yet" because of the goddamn interiors and controls. All of a sudden they don't have to worry about mechanical linkages and they can't fucking help themselves but make you shift it into drive by tonguing a clit on the ceiling.

I know your mommy didn't let you go into art school, doesn't mean you get to take your creativity out on me.

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