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Why Vivaldi browser thinks Google’s new proposal, the Web-Environment-Integrity spec, is a major threat to the open web and should be pushed back. ...

So, what is the issue?

Simply, if an entity has the power of deciding which browsers are trusted and which are not, there is no guarantee that they will trust any given browser. Any new browser would by default not be trusted until they have somehow demonstrated that they are trustworthy, to the discretion of the attesters. Also, anyone stuck running on legacy software where this spec is not supported would eventually be excluded from the web.

​To make matters worse, the primary example given of an attester is Google Play on Android. This means Google decides which browser is trustworthy on its own platform. I do not see how they can be expected to be impartial.

On Windows, they would probably defer to Microsoft via the Windows Store, and on Mac, they would defer to Apple. So, we can expect that at least Edge and Safari are going to be trusted. Any other browser will be left to the good graces of those three companies.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I find it funny that Vivaldi is mad about Google trying to control the web, while their browser is based on chromium - which is also part of Google’s attempt at control.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It would genuinely be cool to see if even one of the other browsers would just say fuck it and rebuild their product on top of Gecko/Quantum

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

And if not Gecko, Webkit is still an option (like Gnome Web). But I’m not holding my breath for it, because they really seem to prefer Chromium for one reason or another.

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