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[–] feedum_sneedson 1 points 11 minutes ago

might be preaching to the choir a little bit

[–] [email protected] 0 points 52 minutes ago (1 children)

Doesn't not having sex do that a little better tho? Like i totally get the point, but also, having sex gives chance of baby right? So, don't do it unless you ready? Maybe I'm wrong.

[–] BaldManGoomba 1 points 20 minutes ago

Sex is a basic human need. Having a child isn't. You need to know you are compatible with your partner sexually or it will lead to tons of strife in a relationship. So not having sex unless you are asexual or a version of it isn't an option.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Birth control is nothing more than a form of medical technology. People against birth control and abortion(also medical technology) are Medical Luddites.

They must be afraid of losing their jobs at crisis pregnancy centers, or be afraid they won't be allowed to shame young single mothers anymore.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

Not so funny.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 hours ago

The worst part is draconic abortion bans also hurt those trying to have children. No one's getting recreational third trimester abortions. You picked out a name, painted the nursery. Late term abortions are tragedies to all parties, and only ever happen because of life threatening conditions.

I wouldn't want to plan a child when any complication could mean death.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago

How is this a meme?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

One issue (and hear me out, I do support abortions, birth control and bodily autonomy!) is that, once given a choice when and how to reproduce, people don't do it as much.

Having pleasure of sex without consequences is screwing the natural incentives for reproduction.

Whether we like it or not, there should be something to support fertility if we don't want to end up in a population crisis, with a few young folks supporting the ever growing army of the elderly.

Now, this should NOT be laws prohibiting abortions, or banning any sort of contraception, but there should be some incentives for people to go, and, well, make babies. This part Republicans got right (wow), they screwed with the suggested methods.

Fixing the financial clusterfuck and letting people live in a bright and predictable world where they know their tomorrow will be good is certainly one way, but I'm afraid it's not enough. What could be the other options? I'm interested in people's opinions.

[–] Funkytom467 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

What do you mean by population crisis?

In the world it's the other way around, the demographics are still booming.

You know what came before having better birth control and lower birth rates in most developed countries, medicine and lower death rate. In most of them now both are pretty close (most because there are exceptions like Japan).

I'm not really sure i see a problem with a slight decrease in population in a place where there is already a lot of people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 minutes ago

Demographics is mostly booming in underdeveloped countries, with some exceptions. It is likely many of them will follow the same path going forward, and UN predictions expect just that, as far as I remember. For developed countries, the fertility rate typically sits somewhere around 1,5-1,7, significantly below 2,1 required to have a stable population. I could of course cite something like South Korea with 0,8, but that's an obvious outlier. It's bad enough as it is.

As the world remains divided, this will likely exacerbate the issue for particular countries with lower birth rate. Immigration is one answer, but it doesn't always cover the population loss, and immigrants are likely to send a lot of their income back home anyway (again, this is absolutely not a case against immigrants, I for one welcome them).

Evening out population growth over time would go a long way to maintain a healthy future.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I know I'm probably wrong here, and I'm willing to be better informed, but I don't like the phrasing of abortion as mere "birth control," as if it were equal to methods that prevent conception or implantation.

Do people really feel it's not a different sort of act, or would people be comfortable using abortion as their sole means of birth control (if it were safe and inconsequential to the woman)? And yes, I understand that the morning after pill is something of a gray area.

Also yes, I am a Christian. But I understand that there are good reasons for abortion remaining legal.

[–] Funkytom467 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Well depends what you mean by birth control... is it a way to prevent pregnancy or children?

Since birth is in the name i'd say the term is better suited for referring to anything preventing the birth of a children. But what the term refers to has no barring on what's happening.

It never meant people don't make a difference. Any reasonable women knows and feel the difference.

The fact it's less safe and has worse effects on your health is just another way we realize how serious an abortion is. It will never be inconsequential even if it was safe.

Please do not to trust anyone who says people disagree with this. They all have a political reason to lie.

[–] JusticeForPorygon 4 points 13 hours ago

They know, that's the point.

[–] Jarix 2 points 11 hours ago

And mutually beneficially so does UBI et al

[–] steel_nomad 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Well, specifically women, but yes that sign is not wrong.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Well, specifically women

How do you figure?

[–] steel_nomad 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

....Are you being purposely obtuse?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

....Are you being purposely obtuse?

Do you think an unwanted pregnancy doesn't affect the biological father's life in any way?

[–] mEEGal -3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago

Memes don't have to be jokes