Am I the only tesla owner who’s car doesn’t phantom brake and has virtually no issues with FSD? Also including cars from 2014+ in the investigation leads me to believe many of them are legacy mobileye LKAS which has nothing to do with self-driving.

And btw the “recall” on fsd was for the car to make complete stops at stop signs. Something that FSD learned to do from how basically everyone drives. If only we could do a software update on people.

If im reading this right out of 860,000 vehicles theyre investigating only 16 accidents and ONE fatality? I wonder how well that stacks up against cars with only humans driving?

[–] AlecSadler 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had a Model 3 for 2 years and a Plaid for 2ish years now. I use FSDb or AP or what have you about...70-80% of most of my drives. Over 50,000 miles I've had two "phantom" brake incidents.

At the moment, I can go from my house to the store and back with no intervention (~15m each way). I can go to and from work with a couple predictable interventions (~50m each way).

That's pretty damn cool to me. I totally understand that everyone's drive contexts are different, but for me...it's pretty great.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I think it comes down more to the person driving it. I let my father in law use FSD for a bit while I was in the passenger seat and he disengaged so many times saying "It was about to crash" and "Its trying to kill me". I didn't see any risk and I almost never disengage. Same car, same streets, same software. Some people just overreact and aren't comfortable with the car taking control.

There are a few youtube channels out there like AIDRIVR that use FSD and torture-test it and pretty much don't take over under any circumstances. And they don't get in any accidents. Weird, huh?

[–] Wiitigo 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The entire four years with my M3, AP has been great, except for this one specific spot on one certain overpass. It brakes for no reason, at that exact same spot every single time. Of course, I just press the accelerator to push through it. Should always be paying attention when using Autopilot anyway.

But, other side of the coin.. If people are relying on AP for long commutes, but don't use it because of a bad track record of phantom breaking for them, then I suppose it's fair they kick up a stink.

Definitely overblown in the media, however. People are of course going to pick up on it negatively, and not even read the article to fully understand how relatively minor the issue is. Bleh..

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The truth is most cars with some type of adaptive cruise do this at a lot of underpasses, its some fluke with the way the forward facing radar works. But teslas now have ditched the radar for the most part so Im curious if its gotten any better.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I only have issues with FSD when it's in somewhat complicated areas and sotuations. Areas that also confuse me.

Its nowhere near perfect and I think anything more than level 2 is a pipe dream, but FSD is one of the things I like about the car.

Hate how loud it is though, so much wind noise. Tesla support sucks, service times suck and I mentally have issues seperating the car from Elon Musk.

But yeah. I've never had phantom breaking. Pre or post fsd. Strange when I hear people saying they get it every drive.

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