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Biden allows Ukraine to use US arms to strike inside Russia (www.reuters.com)

submitted 3 days ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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WASHINGTON, Nov 17 (Reuters) - President Joe Biden's administration will allow Ukraine to use U.S.-provided weapons to strike deep into Russian territory, three sources familiar with the matter said, in a significant change to Washington's policy in the Ukraine-Russia conflict.

Ukraine plans to conduct its first long-range attacks in the coming days, the sources said, without revealing details due to operational security concerns.

The move by the United States two months before President-elect Donald Trump takes office on Jan. 20 follows months of requests by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy to allow Ukraine's military to use U.S. weapons to hit Russian military targets far from its border.

The change follows Russia's deployment of North Korean ground troops to supplement its own forces, a development that has caused alarm in Washington and Kyiv.

The first deep strikes are likely to be carried out using ATACMS rockets, which have a range of up to 190 miles (306 km), according to the sources.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (19 children)

Quick! Before we're out of power! Start WW3!!

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

three sources familiar with the matter

Anonymous sources. On the one hand, this is weak tea, but on the other, I wouldn’t put it past the Biden administration at all.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago

Reuters and NYT are reporting it. Those outlets get their talking points straight from the white house. There is little reason to doubt this.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Was about the time

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (8 children)

It's only for four months. Putin doesn't mind how many Russians will die until Trump gets in and tells Ukraine to surrender his buddy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

What is the point of drafted Ukrainians dying for the next four months? You already accept Ukraine will inevitably surrender.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

If Putin doesn't care how many Ukrainians die, why is he even averse to hitting their rail lines and electrical infrastructure? They clearly save these attacks for retaliation when negotiations fall through yet again and the bellicose US statements get out of hand yet again.

The whole mystification of Iran and Russia's clear strategy of "fuck off so we can stabilize and develop" that inevitably results in risks to our own stability is too funny. Western orientalism is strong in 2024 as it was in 2001.

Russia doesn't benefit from destabilized hostile states on its border. What about that is so hard for liberals to understand? Putin and the oligarchs literally wanted to loot their country and sell shit to the west and you idiots have driven them to China. I should thank you, but you didn't have any say in the matter.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Just wanna point out that in this initial reply to the comment tree, you did the exact same thing I just called you out on:
Misrepresenting (or to not assume malice, misREADING) another comment to then spin your entire narrative around that error.
They said:

Putin doesn’t mind how many Russians will die

You base your retort on:

If Putin doesn’t care how many Ukrainians die

"this already shows you are terrible at reading. How am I supposed to expect you to treat anything else I show you seriously when you cannot even read your own material?"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (8 children)

You cannot be serious, this is a distinction without a difference. I can't believe you've managed to find a way to fence sit between your own position and mine. Yes, to add to your inability to read, you seemingly intend to exhaust my energy by arguing about meaningless nonsense. You have the attitude of someone who does not value their time.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (14 children)

Ah so putin is the good guy whos checks notes liberating the ukraine and totally reasonable in his target choices?

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