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It's similar to "it's costs nothing to be nice" but framed in an unusual way so you end up thinking about it more thoroughly
It is framed as an obligation to be respectful even if you are angry at them. Which is a reasonable mindset for your friends, but not fascists as the latter doesn't deserve respect.
I view it as a kindness that any human deserves. Having differences in opinion doesn't change that for me.
Do you think Putin deserves kindness?
What about mass murderers?
I think everyone does. That doesn't mean I approve of their actions, or agree with their opinions.
I think that even horrible people deserve to be treated humanly, as in no torture, but not with kindness.
What does the word kindness mean to you?
I suppose it's trying to approach any interaction with good intentions for every party, and to treat people humanly. But not necessarily nice or helpful
More precisely, you end up feeling more like a victim of the negative emotions that tempt you
Are you framing emotions as an adversary to what you're trying to do/be?
Yes if they tempt you to be imperfect
I'd argue one could not be perfect without emotion
I agree
Give people the basic dignity of existence, even when you're pissed at them.
Being respectful isn't even close same thing as dignity of existence.
I think you are looking for the word duty or responsibility. Not a native speaker but there is a word for something that you have to to when gaining rights.
What do you mean by "right"?
A "right" is guaranteed to us by our government*. People can be shitty to other people because they are also shitty people. Sometimes, there are consequences. Sometimes there are not. But, the government has a mandate they are not allowed to ignore. People can ignore that mandate if they feel they won't face any repercussions.
Do you want to say "duty"?
People have a moral obligation to be respectful to others. No judge or prosecutor or policeman is going to enforce that upon another citizen.**
*It's taken, not given.
**Edge cases exist
YMMV
Technically you're correct. I'd add that other than the individual's moral obligation there's also the culture and acceptable norms, and here, as you're probability about to find out, the government as a lot of influence.
Fuck you loser
I love you
Hate only breeds hate
Hate only breed virality and revenue
And Jesus flips tables that have too much revenue on them
Hat only breeds hat
Give basic respect to everyone, and more if they earn it. People don't deserve your trust off the bat, and they can lose your respect.