this post was submitted on 08 Nov 2024
57 points (86.1% liked)

Fediverse

28272 readers
891 users here now

A community to talk about the Fediverse and all it's related services using ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, KBin, etc).

If you wanted to get help with moderating your own community then head over to [email protected]!

Rules

Learn more at these websites: Join The Fediverse Wiki, Fediverse.info, Wikipedia Page, The Federation Info (Stats), FediDB (Stats), Sub Rehab (Reddit Migration), Search Lemmy

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Not sure if this is the right place to post, but when the reddit protests were happening, I used Lemmy for a bit then decided to detox from "social media" for a while till now. Am I misinterpreting the activity here?

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 4 points 39 minutes ago

I'm not sure about overall activity, but I do know my feed is active enough that i can't read ALL of it unless I spend like an hour or more per day on here, and that's plenty active for me.

[–] x00z 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I tried not opening Lemmy the last few weeks because of the flood of American politics. I'm sure many people felt the same.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 58 minutes ago (1 children)

Do you use all or subscribe to things? I have a good list of communities and I honestly don't see much if any politics

[–] x00z 1 points 40 minutes ago (1 children)

All, yes. And I have blocked most of the communities that call themselves "News" or similar, but almost only post US politics as news. Yet it still trickles down into other communities.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 38 minutes ago

Try going the other route, and explicitly subscribing to content you enjoy. From what I read you aren't alone, that all is a firehouse and it's not all fun. Subscribed to me is a much chiller experience

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago

Lemmy's got some cool communities like [email protected] that don't exist on Reddit, so I'm happy

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 hours ago

The userbase is small but stable.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 12 hours ago

People coming here to rant about Reddit isn't activity.

[–] PugJesus 49 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Users about halved in the ~3 months after the initial exile. It's increased since then, but not yet to the point that it was at during the initial exodus.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (4 children)

Where the number at? I want to see for myself.

This is so depressing. I thought this was gonna be a cool little bubble. The bubble just pops... :(

I look at the reddit front page and everyone one in the comments are saying the posts on reddit are bot activity, which, at this point, I don't doubt. Internet is dead. :(

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago

It's still a cool bubble. The initial hype was bound to diminish, but it is still a cool little place. Has it's own issues, but still. Here since the exodus, never looked back

[–] PugJesus 51 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

It was an utter disaster in those first few months. I stuck it out only out of sheer stubbornness in not going back to Reddit. Lemmy.world was always down, federation was borked, it was just not ready for the big-time. Just what happens when your userbase balloons 30x inside of a month. Now we're in a much better position to absorb new waves. The big thing is trying to get niche communities started on here - a bit of a arduous task. The mainstream communities are all pretty active at this point! And anything about Linux.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 13 hours ago

And even if you DO post in small communities, half the time it's a toss-up as to whether anyone will see it.

I'm not sure about lemmy, but reddit was roughly 50% US users, so it was a good bet that if you timed posts for "early morning" US browsing or "after work" EU browsing, your post would do well.

Idk lemmy's demographic breakdown, but it seems more generalized (imagine that, a diverse fediverse!) around the world, so it's hard for me to tell when the most users will be active.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Lol I remember lemmy.world got hacked and they put some weird "FBI Seized This" stuff on it. Also Lemmy shitpost had some um... illegal images or so I've been told. What a wild start.

I love the piracy community. No need to fear corporate crackdowns for now. This place is awesome. Well awesome place for me to vent in, cuz of um... recent political events. :(

I dont want to talk to people on reddit, seems like its just bots. I like how Lemmy has bot fiter applications on many instances. Fuck the bots.

[–] PugJesus 9 points 15 hours ago

Oh yeah, there were a whole bunch of issues early on. I'd completely forgotten about that particular incident. I think some of the instances had to wipe several weeks of their image caches over it. I forget what the exact solution was, but apparently there's some technical aspect to preventing such things that's been implemented now.

dbzer0 is kind of 'the' piracy instance. Run by an anarchist, a good egg, db0.

.world here is kind of the 'normie' instance, very left-wing by US standards, but centrist by European standards.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 15 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The other thing is that I recall that kbin.social exploded and got a huge chuck of the exodus - but now that it's been effectively dead for half a year, those users mostly seem to have vanished.

A fraction clearly did migrate to other mbin and lemmy instances. It seems like the rest did not return to spez's site from what I'm hearing ("all the posts I'm seeing there are complaining that only bots are active here") but I'm not sure where they went. But for example, one person I was following seems to have dropped off entirely from the fediverse and all social media.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I migrated from kbin. My experience on the instance I am using has been different, but I wasn't a big user before. I actually feel like there are more posts on some major areas now than a year ago summer, but I dont know about wholesale usage.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

We get a few 100+ proper discussion threads daily and people sharing goof information a lot of times. Kinda like what reddit used to be.

Early on all was getting spammed endlessly with meme reposts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Thanks for sharing. I was never actually a reddit member, but I was a long time viewer. I probably don't really know what reddit was like. Not as a member. I still use that one forum, but mostly I view here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I thought maybe it was just my imagination that it's been really slow since Wednesday, but you can see it clearly on the charts at the bottom of the page there.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

May be all the propaganda bots going offline?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 15 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 17 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Nah it's been pretty busy. I don't browse all and only sort by scaled and if I ever ran out of content I think I would be the problem haha

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

I've found that sorting by New Comments is the best way to have a steady stream of interesting stuff on my feed at any given time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

I'm subbed to a ton of stuff and my feed dries quickly. Even if I do browse all. I'm also new to the platform, so I'm probably doing something wrong?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago

Try using the "scaled" version while browsing all, it lets all the small stuff pop up too. Just be ready to religiously block communities without hesitation to get things curated how you want

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I feel like you're just not subbed to enough stuff. That said I don't spend more than an hour on here/my phone per day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 58 minutes ago

You were right. I found the trending sub channel and found a swathe of content.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Combining: bans, blocks, defederation, differing lemmy versions and federation bugs / glitches, you end up with a different view (sometimes for better or for worse) than someone on another instance

[–] PugJesus 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Going to new, or staying on hot?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

Tried both. I get marginally more content via new. A lot of it is what's in hot but in a different order. I'm on boost for lemme if that matters.

[–] PugJesus 21 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/stats&months=48

65k Monthly Active Users (MAU) in July 2023, 33k by November 2023, 44k now.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Ah so its not that bad, I was under the impression by your comment that it died like at 1k or less people lol

[–] [email protected] 14 points 14 hours ago

There's a difference in how active users are counted now, too, so that skews the numbers. An active user used to be a user who posted or commented. Now voting makes a user active.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago

People didn't find what they wanted and/or went back to what was stable and familiar. I still am avoiding using reddit for anything except the subs related to people living in Japan (the community didn't move over; a couple did but there were basically no posts very quickly) and when it shows up in some search result and nothing else has worked.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 15 hours ago

A lot of that initial rush of users went back to reddit for one reason or another and I think lemmy is reaching equilibrium between where it was before the protests and the mass in rush during

[–] [email protected] 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I've found my participation slowly declining here on the Fediverse, and ramping back up again on Reddit. I think I'm never going to stop coming here entirely, there's plenty of neat links that come along to explore, but the main thing that's causing decline is that IMO the communities here are a lot "bubblier." It's probably inherent in the simple fact that they're small, and that they're populated by a very self-selected fragment of social media, but the result is that if I "say the wrong thing" I get pummeled with downvotes and snide comments a lot easier here. Makes it less interesting to comment at all. Some of Reddit's communities are pretty insular too but at least there are enough of them that I can find ones to my taste.

As a major example that comes to mind, all of the technology communities I've found here seem to be quite strongly anti-AI. I have an interest in AI, but when I click through to the comments on stories about AI topics it's often nothing but rants about how awful it is. And if I say anything - even to correct a factual error - I get piled on. So lately I just sigh and move on.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

As a major example that comes to mind, all of the technology communities

I've blocked most of them a while ago. Still seems strange that there is no AI enthusiast community somewhere, that should definitely exist

[–] grue 8 points 15 hours ago

Back then, [email protected] was one of the most active communities, LOL. There might be somewhat fewer people here right now, but at least the content has diversified somewhat since we settled in.

(Not that I dislike self-hosting, mind you. In fact I wouldn't mind if that community were a little more active...)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Maybe I have been a little less active, but that is because Sync for Lemmy is too broken to use.

My two best alternatives are Boost (currently using it) then Summit for Lemmy :)

[–] wjrii 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Voyager has been working well for me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

It is great, but it never feels smoother than Summit, Boost or Sync :/

Especially while scrolling, swiping back posts or going to your subscriptions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Try out Jerboa as well! Did it on day 1 of the exodus and had zero problems.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I can't use Lemmy without mark as read on scroll and clear read posts (client side), are those both features on Jerboa?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Unsure, never heard of those.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

which protests? there have been many.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Y'all know which one, the one that brought most of us here.

June 12, 2023, nothing happened on the front page, it was a peaceful day, there is no protest, carry on, internet user.

(It was June 12 right? My post-covid memory has been a bit blurry)

Edit: typo

[–] [email protected] -1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Us as in Lemmy Users who came from reddit