The two types of instances people should seek to defederate from are ones for fascism and abusers. I know a lot of the Loli(and I presume Shota) defenses are claims that these characters only have childlike bodies. I disagree personally though. In any anime I've seen a Lolita character, they also behave like a child. They may claim she's a 2000 year old vampire, but she's acting like a child. That character is an abuser fantasy. They want to take advantage of that ignorance. There are probably plenty of people who like that body type innocently, but I believe there are many more who's intentions are vile to say the least.
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Indeed. I like free speech as much as the next guy, but fascists and abusers don't like free speech and only use it as a cover to spread their ideology. Once they reach critical mass in a community, they flip and ban speech they don't like.
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I personally think this type of content is disgusting, but I'm also aware that I dont speak for everyone. So everyone's input would be appreciated. Would people prefer to block these communities on an individual basis or out right defederate the whole servers?
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So I'm totally new to Lemmy (reddit refugee), but a big draw for forums like these is freedom of speech (content). While I personally find it horribly distasteful, I can also moderate it on my own. Personally I enjoy firearms and hunting, some people would find hunting horribly distasteful and while I'm drawing parallels that aren't entirely equal, I think the main point remains. Let people moderate their own content as they see fit and have the moderators stick to what is 100% against the rules/law.
Application of the rules is fairly arbitrary. The admin just made them up, and they're not specific. For this specific topic, the admin wanted to feel out community thoughts on how against the rules this content is, and how harsh the response should be. Also, to be fair, hunting and firearms in most forms are fairly morally grey, while loli/shota is almost ubiquitously morally dark, so they aren't a truly equivalent comparison.
Is anyone aware of research on the effects of drawn/animated CSAM on non-abusers becoming abusers? Is it a way for them to safely address their urges without harming a real person, thereby decreasing abuse, or does indulging in it in fiction reinforce the desire and make them more likely to abuse in reality?
For some semi-parallels... On one hand, it's pretty well established that violent video games don't make people more violent in real life. But on the other, hitting a pillow because you're angry cements that physical response to anger and does make you more likely to hit a person in the future. I'm a little bit inclined towards thinking video games are a more similar scenario, but brains are complicated and I'm not an expert.
If animated content like this actually reduces abuse, or even if it's neutral, I'm in favor of keeping it accessible. If it increases abuse, though... not so much.
I'm honestly not sure about the science on this subject, I think it's not been well-studied. I'm moreso worrying about cultural effects, because it's what I'm a bit better informed about.
I think they should be. Horrible shit like this should be defederated. That's my opinion anyway. I know it isn't "real" abuse, but to be honest I think depicting it is sickening. And I don't think free speech should be used as an excuse.
I hope I never come across a post from them, I would be pretty upset seeing it. But I would block it anyway. I would appreciate not seeing it to begin with though.