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[–] nifty 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Urban planning is tricky, some times nice ideas have super tricky executions. Planting fruit/food trees in public spaces also accounts for rodents and pests, and managing disease vectors. Was just reading about fruit bats and Marburg virus spread in Central Africa…, regardless, just something that needs to be done with planning and consideration https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2013/04/23/178603623/want-to-forage-in-your-city-theres-a-map-for-that

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[–] woop_woop 14 points 1 month ago (23 children)

Presumably because everyone assumes the tragedy of the commons will happen as it always does. And, little red hen, there's a sense that if one person does the work, they are owed the fruits of their labor

[–] spankmonkey 10 points 1 month ago (12 children)

But a fruit tree in a public space is like an open field or playground equipment in a public space. They are there for everyone, and people who complain that the 'wrong people' are using those public rrsources for personal use are selfish idiots.

Like if a company came in and took all the fruit, sure, that would be wrong. But someone taking apples to make a pie? That's what it is there for.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (6 children)

No legal advice, but I am pretty sure picking an apple from a tree in a public space (but can be privately owned) for direct consumption is legal in Germany. Weird but understandable that you need a law for that.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

We need to re-think our relationship with property.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (7 children)

There will be atleast 1 asshole trying to take all the aplles fer themselves. I guarantee it

[–] pete_the_cat 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

God damn apple stealing whores....

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[–] Monster96 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

If the suits who run society find out that people would get this fruit for free, they'd probably make it so that taking this fruit is considered stealing. You'd get a fine, charged with thievery because it's property of the city.

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[–] settxy 9 points 1 month ago

The park that I live next to has 3 apple trees (I'm in USA). These are not grocery store apples, they're small and riddle with bugs, this isn't an orchard.

When the apples are ripe, they'll get picked by kids and familes for a couple weeks. Nobody hordes them, nobody sees it as stealing, they're cool, and great for the community.

I'm just sad that they're getting old and about to die. There used to be 5 just a couple years ago. I think they may have planted a couple new saplings, but I'm not an arborist.

Fruit trees typically don't live as long as other trees, that's probably why parks and rec usually don't plant them. Having to replace an apple tree every 25 years as opposed to a Maple, Oak, Sycamore, Pine, Elm, Cedar every 100-200+ years, kinda an easy choice. With that said, I like it, and think it's worth. More parks should have a handful of them.

[–] brucethemoose 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

We're banned from planting fruit-bearing trees in our Florida neighborhood due to pest problems.

This sounds outrageous from outside the state... turns out, it's not. Oh, it is not, you have no idea. Planting those on main street would be a catastrophe.

What I'm saying is this sounds nice in theory, but there are all sorts of knock-on effects that have nothing to do with humans, and you'd have to at the very least tailor it to the local environment and climate.

Maybe its better in like boulder or San Francisco?

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