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People are shocked that they are suddenly supporting a group they don't normally like because this group is now defending them from a genocidal state?
There were always Hezbollah supporters in Lebanon.
The uproar was specifically caused by the fact that Ain al-Mraiseh is not considered an area where the party is dominant. For that reason, users considered these movements as "provocative."
Yeah I know. It's just funny that there's an "uproar" and it's seen as "provocative" to publicly come out and support a group that happens to be protecting you from getting steamrolled by a government as ruthless and callous as Israel. This is their lives and their homes we're talking about. What did people expect?
They're a big part of the reason Lebanon is in the bad state it is in right now.
They've been executing critics and opposition for years. The ammo depot explosion was also devastating.
Their assassination of Lebanon's prime minister.
Shooting rockets at Israel since the 8th of October against the Lebanese government's wishes.
And their continued assistance of Assad alongside Russia in butchering Syrians, which was/is not in the interest of Lebanon.
Nothing you say detracts from the point I'm trying to make. Which is why are people so surprised people would suddenly support a group they usually hate to protect themselves, their families, and their livelihoods?
Why are you so sure these people didn't support Hezbollah before?
I understood the point you were trying to make, hence my reply.
All those things are examples for how Hezbollah hasn't protected Lebanon, but quite the opposite.
Without Hezbollah, Lebanon could've been in a much better place now.
Why are you so sure these people didn’t support Hezbollah before?
That's the whole premise of the article you posted? I feel like I'm not getting your point.
Those people came from other areas to chant in support of Hezbollah in areas where there's no support for Hezbollah.
The article you linked doesn't confirm what you're saying to be true but neither does it say you're wrong. It simply labels these people as "Hezbollah supporters" without specifying if they're locals or not. You could be right in that sense. I just understood it differently than you.
In what way is Hezbollah protecting anyone?
from getting steamrolled by a government as ruthless and callous as Israel
It's right there in my comment.
Yeah, how exactly is firing potshots across the border and getting Lebanon into a war it doesn't want protecting anyone from getting steamrolled?
Israel is the one escalating the war and invading Lebanon. Not the other way around.
Still not answering the question
I did. Just not in the way you wanted.
You really didn't. Let's try again: what has Hezbollah actually done that has protected anyone from Israel? They can't even protect themselves from their pagers.
You're welcome to go over and read the history of Hezbollah, how and why they were formed, and what would have happened had they not existed if you so earnestly want to know what they have done to protect Lebanon from Israel. You're also welcome to look up why they have decided to take "potshots" with their genocidal neighbors and how that whole debacle started.
I'm well aware of Hezbollah's history and my question still stands.
If you're well aware of the history then the answer to "Why do Lebanese citizens who hate Hezhollah are suddenly publicly supporting them as a foreign military they hate even more attacks their homes" isn't a question you need me to answer for you.
It's lucky that's not the question I'm asking then. I'm asking what Hezbollah has actually done to protect anyone from Israel.
I really did. It's in the first comment you replied to by me. I even quoted it to you again.
Since you're so familiar with all the events surrounding this then I doubt any points I make will change your mind. You're welcome to go listen to one of these Lebanese people this article touches on via social media. I'm sure you will find a lot of them either in Lebanon or outside of Lebanon. See what they have to say.
Blaming the victims of terrorism is surely the way forward. \s \s \s
Hezbollah, the victims of genocide… you guys qare smoking something serious
They're the literal ground forces against zionist genocide. Are you really this dumb/dishonest?
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/9/18/hezbollah-and-israel-a-timeline-of-conflict
Uproar about some chants? Wait until they hear about the multiple terrorist attacks against lebanon.
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