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What are ä, ü, ö, and ß?

The first three letters are umlauts, or Umlaute in German. The 'ä' sounds like the 'ai' in 'air' and is represented by /ɛ/ in the IPA. The 'ü' sounds like the French 'u' and can be produced by pronouncing 'ee' in 'free' but with rounded lips. IT is represented by /y/ in the IPA. The 'ö' roughly corresponds to the 'i' in 'bird' in accents like the one of New Zealand. Alternatively it is the same vowel sound in 'may' in, amongst others, General American English, but with rounded lips. It is represented by /ø/ in the IPA. The last letter, ß, is either called 'Eszett' (SZ) or 'Scharfes S' (sharp s) depending on where you are. It is the sound of 's' in words like 'sudden'. The capital versions of these letters are Ä, Ü, Ö, and ẞ, but ẞ is not used that commonly and has not been an official letter for that long. If your keyboard layout does not support these letters, they can be substituted by: 'ae', 'ue', 'oe' and 'ss'.

What is grammatical gender?

Grammatical gender is a system used to put nouns into different "classes". The name 'grammatical gender' is a little bit misleading however, since the grammatical gender does not have to correspond to the gender of the person or object you are talking about. And while Germans grammatical gender system does make the name seem logical, some languages classify words not as 'masculine', 'feminine', and 'neuter', but as things like 'animate' and 'inanimate'. Unfortunately there is no way of knowing which gender each word is without learning it. That's why you are recommended to at least learn each noun together with their article(der, die, das). There are some indicators which can help you, but for many words you'll have to learn it.

Which accent/dialect should I learn?

While learning different dialects & accents might sound like a useful thing to do, in reality you will be able to speak Standard High German to virtually anyone. Therefore the recommended accent is definitely the standardised one. There are things like the Standard Austrian and Standard Swiss German accents, but if you do not plan to specifically go there, Standard High German is usually the best decision, especially since most material will be made for it.

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From the Deutsche Welle's "Learn German" web-app, there's a second part to completing A1 level, called the "Nicolas Weg". Here's the question from the last form page:

  1. Hi, wie geht's?

    (Say "hello" and thank them for asking, say that you are doing well. Afterward ask how the person is doing.)

    Their answer: Hallo! Danke, gut. Und dir?

    My answer: Hallo! Danke, es geht gut. Und dir?

  2. Guten Morgen, wie geht es Ihnen?

    (Greet them and say that you are not doing too well.)

    Their answer: Guten Morgen, es geht mir nicht so gut.

    My answer: Guten Morgen, es geht nicht so gut.

  3. Guten Abend.

    (Reciprocate the greeting and formally ask how the other person is doing.)

    Their answer: Guten Abend, wie geht es Ihnen?

    My answer: Guten Abend, wie geht's Ihnen?

Apart from that, I also have a few doubts:

  • I understand that Ihnen and dir are used in formal and casual occasions. But what about the case when both are avoided? If "Wie geht's?" is grammatically correct, then would that also be the same for the non-contracted form, "Wie geht es?"

  • I was wondering as to when the word "mir" should be used? Why not "mich" or "ich"?

  • And what about "Morgen", instead of "Guten Morgen"?

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[–] Zachariah 2 points 1 week ago

For ich / mich / mir, if you understand subject / direct object / indirect object, that’s how you decide.

Here’s a link specifically about German: https://www.meetkleo.com/articles/me-in-german