this post was submitted on 31 Aug 2024
5 points (77.8% liked)

Wales (Cymru)

189 readers
1 users here now

All things Wales/Cymru – Discussion, Politics, News, Art and Media are all welcome.

Rules:

- Keep discussion civil.
- Wales-centric or adjacent posts only.
- Try post non-paywalled links wherever possible.
- No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia.
- Follow Lemmy/Lemm.ee rules at all times.

News Sources:

Nation Cymru

Wales Online

BBC Wales

North Wales Live

South Wales Argus

ITV Wales

Bylines Cymru

Note – the above are not personal recommendations.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

The economic case against independence is infected by old thinking.

It has long been assumed, largely without challenge, that Wales is simply too small, too weak and too poor to make its own way in the world.

It follows from this attitude that we are doomed to eke out a living, subsisting and dependent on Westminster subsidies and being told what to do by the London establishment is an intrinsic part of the bargain.

The price of being a perceived subsidy baby is obedience.

top 1 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Lemming421 1 points 2 months ago

Interesting ideas, although there is one major issue with the pensions:

After all, most people in those circumstances would only be getting back the money they have paid in.

That’s not how National Insurance works - we’re not paying into a pot we can draw from later, we’re paying for current pensions with the expectation that when we get to retirement, the younger people will be paying for ours.

So that would be an interesting negotiation point.