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What’s a piece of SF that you just couldn’t get into, even though you feel like you should?

I tried to watch Babylon 5, for instance, and just couldn’t connect to it. I know it’s popular and people love it, but it never hooked me.

Another is The Three Body Problem. I tried reading it after a friend’s glowing recommendation, but I couldn’t get past the first chapter. I even tried reading it in another language in case it was the translation I couldn’t connect with, but the same thing happened.

Both are things I feel like I should like, but just don’t.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The Expanse. I just can't engage with the series. I understand it's great, but I just can't seem to gain any emotional attachment to the characters.

[–] TeaHands 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Came here to say this and I'm so relieved there's someone else!

I read the first couple of books long before the series was a thing, they were ok but didn't grab me enough to keep going. And then a few episodes into the TV version I gave up on that too. There's nothing in particular I could point to that's "bad" exactly, it's just not for me.

The way people talk about it makes me think of revisiting it sometime but honestly, life's too short to keep trying when something doesn't appeal.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

For me the Expanse really started to shine towards the end of season 1. Then when they hit seasons 2 and 3 I fell in love. But I totally get not being able to get into it, especially because the first season takes a long time to get rolling

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Firefly (and it's movie, Serenity). I just didn't enjoy them, just didn't click with me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not sure whether to upvote because you're faithfully answering the question or downvote in furious rage at your answer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

whynotboth.gif trolololol.gif ;)

[–] dbaner 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The three body problem had a very slow start. It took me several attempts to get past the first section. But it's definitely worth persevering with. It's one of my favorite series now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m going to try either the Chinese drama that came out earlier this year, or wait for the Netflix series. I just couldn’t get into the book, and I tried in both English and Japanese. I’d try in Chinese, but my Chinese is nowhere near good enough for that, alas.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Huh, I finished the first book right before checking Lemmy and writing this comment. I read it in German and I have to say that it's extremely good, but some parts are... weird. The jumping between time is hard. Sentences like "They ate breakfast and 30 million years later they built a space cannon" (not an actual sentence in the book) are just weird :D

I will read the other books as well, though. The story is way too good.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I've read Neuromancer about 2/3 the way through a couple of times. I just can't finish it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Have you read the Burning Chrome collection and Johnny Mnemonic?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Foundation. I read I, Robot and loved it, but I couldn't get into Foundation.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The original Foundation is a product of its time. It is amazing when read in the context of the 1950s, but tricky today. Try Caves of Steel to further the I Robot read. Asimov built an entire future history spanning 10s of thousands of years.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Thanks! I might actually own a copy of this, although I don't think I ever started it. I've added it to my TBR on goodreads in any case, next time I want to read some scifi I'll check it out!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Foundation is probably the best harder scifi going right now, just the idea of the clone kings dawn dusk and day is worth it let alone the prime radiant and foundation itself.

Raised by wolves is a good one in a similar style, but it got cancelled before it was able to answer the bigger questions of the world building which is frustrating

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow I had no idea there was a tv adaptation of it! I was talking about the books haha

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

ha funny, I'm not a reader so it never even crossed my mind that you weren't talking about the show. well still, I highly recommend the show!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

hey I watched the tv show last night thanks to your accidental recommendation and it's great!! I was under the mistaken impression that s1 and 2 were all out and s3 was being released so now i'm devastated but I'll binge s2 as soon as this season is finished and then wait for more haha

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[–] TeaHands 2 points 1 year ago

By comparison the original Foundation is my favourite scifi book of all time. No shade though, different strokes and all that!

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Something about the Stargate franchise has simply never appealed to me. I saw the original movie as a kid and enjoyed it, with a distinct memory of the "Rainbow Road" travel effect feeling pretty intense because I was sitting closer to the screen than usual. It was fun, if a bit slight.

I've seen a bits and pieces of the shows here and there, and nothing about them is drawing me in. I might like them, but I just have zero desire to dive in. Seems like low-budget camp with a learning curve.

Honorable mention to The Orville, which I do like quite a bit, but I find the unadulterated love for it baffling; it's a deeply flawed show that makes up for a lot with sheer heart and some decent scripts from the Star Trek slush pile.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The Orville is just Star Trek fan show with sex and poop jokes (and one that doesn't take itself serioisly, sometimes to a fault). It's enjoyable but it just doesn't try to be anything more than "funny Trek". Fun, but too derivative.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Futurama never worked for me. I don't like the Simpsons either, so maybe that's why.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Anything by Matt Groening is always the same. He's always trying to make fun of TV tropes and subvert them but at the same time he's stuck with the restrictions of commercial, ad-compatible mainstream TV.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I loved Babylon 5 but Crusade just hasn't clicked for me

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I don't think Crusade clicked for anyone. Hence Crusade getting cancelled midway through its first season.

To be honest, all of the 'post-B5' B5 has been difficult. JMS apparently literally thought up the gist of the five season plot (which ended up being condensed into seasons 1-4 of the show as they were unsure if they would get cancelled - hence so much happening in s4) while he was in the shower, and it was one of the best sci-fi stories ever told. But it's seemed clear to me that everything he's done since B5 s4 has not reached anything like the same levels.

He told a great story, and he created a great universe, but I think he doesn't really know how to tell other great stories in that universe.

[–] GrimChaos 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The popular ones that come to mind (unpopular opinions):

-Hyperion by Dan Simmons. Tried twice and couldn't even finish it.

-Pandora's Star by Peter F. Hamilton. Tried reading it twice and audiobook twice, give up each time.

-The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet by Becky Chambers. Finished it but it didn't really like it.

-Fifth Season by N. K. Jemisin. Finished it but didn't really care about anything going on in the book.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I tried to read Fifth Season because I followed Jemisin on Twitter back when I still used Twitter and really liked her. But the book just did nothing for me and I stopped after a chapter. I feel like I should give it another shot, but eh.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I almost put The Fifth Season down after the first chapter, I remember thinking: "This author has a chip on their shoulder". I'm glad I persevered though, and I definitely recommend the series to people as it is quite different. I'd suggest giving it another shot.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My issue was the writing style, oddly enough. I liked her tweets, so I was really surprised that I didn’t like her actual writing.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree about the Three Body Problem, I read it but I don't know what I read. Could be the translation but man it really bounced off.

But I couldn't read VanderMeer, that thing that was really popular, like his version of the Zone from Stalker. Couldn't believe all the hype, felt like gaslighting. Maybe I'll try it again, who knows

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@stopthatgirl7 I've started Dune numerous times. I get further each time, but I'm still not very far along. I think there's a tone change between the opening of the book and the move to Arrakis. Paul's mother has just met with the "house mother" in my latest attempt. I'll get there. Eventually.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I tried Dune a few times, I just can't do it. Not the books, not the miniseries, not the new movie. In theory it sounds great, but... It's not gripping me at all for some reason.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Dune is one of my favorite series, but I can totally see why it would be jarring. Unfortunately there are a couple of major tonal shifts throughout the series. Heck.... there's a couple just in the first book. It is definitely a very dense read. Lots going on and a lot of moving parts to track. There's even a glossary in the back to keep track of it with maps heh.

It's a really interesting universe. Herbert was really into philosophy and lead a really interesting life (his biography written by his son is an interesting read as well). It doesn't get any less dense and layered unfortunately, if that is what is keeping you out of it.

The Sci-fi mini-series was good and hit most of the major points pretty well, if you just can't deal with the books themselves. It might bring you back with some renewed interest. The new movies are interesting as a fan, but don't really tell the story fully, IMHO.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I read The Three Body Problem, but it wasn't engaging enough to read the sequels. I'm not into sci-fi adjacent films like Pacific Rim and superhero or comic book movies. In general, I have a strong preference for sci-fi books over movies and TV shows because books can go places that visual media can't.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Star Trek, both the old and new ones
Battlestar Galactica

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm not sure if I've given it enough of a try, but I wanted to get into the Culture series and started with Consider Phlebas. After three (four?) chapters I changed it out for a different book; I considered "The Player of Games" instead, but the plot didn't sound exciting.

Not sure if I should give it a second chance or not. After those chapters I just didn't really care what happened next, nor did I care much for the main character.
I switched to Project Hail Mary and love it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Banks is my favourite sci fi author, but I to struggled with Consider Phlebas. Consider reading Player of Games. The culture books can be read as stand alone books without missing to much. I think Banks found his stride with Player of Games.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

@stopthatgirl7 I agree with Three Body Problem. For me, it was an absolute slog to get through. I thought maybe The Dark Forest would be better, but I fell off of it immediately. As far as movies go ... It was The Matrix for me. It was fine, but just fine. So much so that I did not even bother with the last two.

[–] bingbong 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't seem get into Star Trek. I've seen several variations of movies and shows, but it's just not for me

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The original series is just god awful and I basically love everything else up until to the new movies. (Any trekies in the house wanna fight about Enterprise being the best trek series?)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I am really digging Strange New Worlds. It feels like Star Trek to me. (As opposed to Discovery, which-- well, let's just say I'm not a fan haha.)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is Enterprise the best Star Trek series? No way.

Is Enterprise s4 arguably the best individual Star Trek season? Very possible.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Enterprise is a mixed bag for me. I very much disliked the temporal cold war and the season long Xindi war.

But, they had some of the best mirror universe eps. in all of trek and I think, a great cast.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My problem with the earlier seasons is that the human characters all behave like irrational over-emotional caricatures of humans, as if they were written by Vulcan logic absolutists expressly for the purposes of anti-human propaganda. A moderately intelligent human today wouldn't behave the way they sometimes do, yet we're to believe that the best and brightest of humanity in the 22nd century would.

By season 4 they had ironed out the kinks and finally told some great stories, but by that point too many people had switched off.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

First, the Trekkers would like a word with you about that slur…

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

@dave

I just talked about this with customers im my shop last week...

I'm a Trekkie and a Trekker. 🖖

If Swifties become Swifters, the merch people could clean up! 🧹

Furries & Bronies, Furrers & Broners? 🤣
Um, nah. Sounds naughty. 🦫🍆

@stopthatgirl7 @bingbong @metaStatic

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dhalgen. I know some people absolutely love this book but to me it was just a directionless ramble from one random sci-fi plot to the next with little-to-no resolution to any of them.

And come on one-shoe-guy: When somebody offers you a new pair of shoes, put the damn things on instead of saying you're good and continuing to hobble around half shod / half barefoot.

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