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Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez came under fire from her closest allies on the left — including a fellow Squad member — after a raucous reception at the DNC. Archive link

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, fair play. I've been something of an apologist for AOC for some time, but her full transformation to mainstream Democrat is disappointing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It’s inevitable. Electoral politics means working with and being absorbed by the powers that be. I don’t think AOC is a bad person. She is trying to tilt the needle I expect. But to be effective she has to gain the support of those people who have made themselves our enemies. And therein lies the poison of the system.

We need to build an external movement powerful enough to demand obedience from our leaders, not just beg for it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Oh, I agree. I think the last six months have really disabused me of the notion that working to effect meaningful change within the US system as it currently stands is even remotely possible.

[–] AshMan85 5 points 4 months ago

Power corrupts all

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Archive link doesn’t bypass the subscription wall. Can someone share what ilham wrote?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Used a fake email here’s the section

“It’s been unconscionable for me the last 10 months to witness my colleagues in this administration refusing to recognize the genocidal war that is taking place in Gaza,” Omar said on Wednesday. 

The Minnesota representative, who did not immediately respond to a request for comment, directly attacked the administration, but used Ocasio-Cortez’s turn of phrase in a thinly veiled admonishment: “To not understand that ‘working tirelessly’ for a ceasefire is really not a thing, and they should be ashamed of themselves

[–] TropicalDingdong -1 points 4 months ago

I’ve been something of an apologist for AOC for some time, but her full transformation to mainstream Democrat is disappointing

She's got that 🤩 power now. I mean look at most lemmings brain dead take on her speech. They know nothing about what it took to get AOC into power and that it basically wasn't her doing. It was our doing. Now that she has 🤩 she can tell the people who put her there (read: us) to piss up a rope.

There are some lessons learned for CERTAIN this year on the behalf of outsiders like progressives, and if you were an early member in orgs like our revolution or justice democrats. We're going to do better next time keeping receipts/ collars.

I think whats going to happen/ is happening is that the Republican party is going to collapse after this election cycle, and the Republican party will be largely absorbed into the Democratic party. Its already happening (I mean look how many repub's they are platforming at the DNC).

We should be planning ahead and looking at either a) consolidating the fractured "left parties" (eg greens, working families, social democrats, independents, etc) into a "progressive party", or b) considering creating an new independent third party.

If the above happens (and if Kamala wins, I'm highly confident it will), there will be a period of maybe 1-3 election cycles of restructuring where effectively all parties will have to coalition with or against the Democrats, who will be crab walking to the right. This would be the window where third parties are extremely viable, and strategically acceptable.