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The state can just wait out protests it knows will end. (self.progressivepolitics)

submitted 3 months ago by RosethornRangerTTV to c/progressivepolitics

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The point of protests is a threat to the state, and to wear down its reserves of resources and normality by taking up space and not allowing it to do things. If there is no threat of more actions, like even continued protesting, why would the state choose fundamental systematic change over losing a small bit of resources?

We are in the middle of a pandemic and so many protests are happening without a significant portion of people wearing masks. This makes these protests self defeating. Continued action won't happen in the moment when everyone gets sick, and fucking over anybody willing to protest with long covid means we get even less protesting in the future. There might be a small threat of more action, but that is far overshadowed.

The state is actively benefiting from protests right now because so many of yall are ableist and eugenicist. Even working alongside these people is counter-productive. If we don't exclude reactionaries from our action they will take us down with them.

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[–] rustymitt 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I mean protests affect public opinion and people vote. So maybe your points are right under an authoritarian regime, but there's more to it in a democracy.

[–] RosethornRangerTTV 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I am queer and disabled, the things I want are not on the ballet for either party. There might be more to it for your rights, but not for mine.

[–] rustymitt 2 points 3 months ago

Oh well in that case I totally agree with you. Republicans and Dems are the same, voting doesn't matter and we have to burn it all to the ground.

[–] sramder 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You think the point of a protest is to sap the administrative state of resources until they are forced to recognize your position? Time to have another think.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

the state resources are more expansive than that of any protest that has taken place; this is self evident from protests that took place and fizzled out like the on going genocide (hasn't yet fully fizzled out); to george floyd; to occupy wall street; etc. mostly due to continued pressures from all systems including manufactured narratives from popular media; legally enabling of police violence on protestors; clandestinely state sanctioned operators/agitators; plus many, many more methods.

[–] sramder 1 points 3 months ago

Like talking to a brick wall.

Yes. Obviously.

Thus if the point of your protest is to create change by wearing down government, you are doing it wrong.