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Mozilla has a close relationship with Google, as most of Firefox's revenue comes from the agreement keeping Google as the browser's default search engine. However, the search giant is now officially a monopoly, and a future court decision could have an unprecedented impact on Mozilla's ability to keep things "business as usual."

United States District Judge Amit Mehta found Google guilty of building a monopolistic position in web search. The Mountain View corporation spent billions of dollars becoming the leading search provider for computing platforms and web browsers on PC and mobile devices.

Most of the $21 billion spent went to Apple in exchange for setting Google as the default search engine on iPhone, iPad, and Mac systems. The judge will now need to decide on a penalty for the company's actions, including the potential of forcing Google to stop payments to its search "partners completely," which could have dire consequences for smaller companies like Mozilla.

Its most recent financials show Mozilla gets $510 million out of its $593 million in total revenue from its Google partnership. This precarious financial position is a side effect of its deal with Alphabet, which made Google the search engine default for newer Firefox installations.

The open-source web browser has experienced a steady market share decline over the past few years. Meanwhile, Mozilla management was paid millions to develop a new "vision" of a theoretical future with AI chatbots. Mozilla Corporation, the wholly owned subsidiary of Mozilla Foundation managing Firefox development, could find itself in a severe struggle for revenue if Google's money suddenly dried up.

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[–] ulkesh 12 points 4 months ago

So Mozilla will find other forms of funding. That’s how this works.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

quite a good chunk of that goes to their ceo anyway.

[–] vanderbilt 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I am livid over her absolutely disgraceful management over Moz. When electron was building a de facto monopoly of Chromium on the desktop she made no moves to produces equivalent tooling. While Node grew into a behemoth she totally ignored it. The only thing that has come out of Moz in the last decade that mattered was Rust, and she’s already fired the Rust team. She is poison and serves only to suck up a salary that could fund development.

Mozilla needs its wake up call and to start being the underdog that makes something worth doing. With Manifest V3 and the anti-trust case on the horizon they have a fork in the road that will define what becomes of them. Hopefully she can make one good decision and it’ll be the right one.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

Even if Mozilla survives it'll need to cut off some spendings.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I can very much imagine this being a short to medium term issue (and still an existential threat to Mozilla), but hopefully, this improves the situation to the point that there is no future company like google who artificially maintains control over browsers and search engines, rendering competitors dependent on these massive contracts? I mean, this is what got them there, right?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Tax/fine Google more and give the profits to competitors like Mozilla (as long as those competitors use the funds for Firefox)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sounds too European for the "land of the free"

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] toasteecup 9 points 4 months ago

I would pay money to keep Firefox foss for other people who can't afford to do so.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

This isn't a new threat. This was always a threat.

The things that give google money are the reasons why we don't want to use google. The things that firefox does to get money are basically just giving google the thing that makes them money.

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