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I would like to learn a couple of languages (polish and Japanese - I already learned Spanish to a decent degree) but it seems like every solution is closed source.

I would use books but listening (and speaking) are very important and books won't help with those.

What would you guys recommend?

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The US Foreign Services Institute releases their learning materials, so if you're okay with a lack of structure I hear they can be very useful, including both reading and listening.

It can be accessed on several different sites. Here's one that came up, but you can find a few more with some searching: https://www.livelingua.com/fsi/

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Holy shit this is an excellent resource. Thanks a lot

Edit never mind just looked at the pdf for my native language and it's full of errors for the most basic shit.

[–] Dougas 2 points 2 years ago

I just checked my native language and they are using an older version of the language that ceased to be used around 1975 or so.

[–] original2 4 points 2 years ago

This looks awesome

[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There is librelingo but, honestly, it's far behind Duolingo.

The closest software I found is to use a flashcard tool (like AnkiDroid) and then search for an open deck of your language using AnkiWeb.

Doing so you get a similar experience than DuoLingo without the gamification and pretty UI.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

This. Lots of people use Anki for this purpose. When you get used to it, there is no way back.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Duolingo is useful for wasting time while feeling like you are learning however it isn't a great tool for learning if that is your goal.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

I hear this opinion a lot, and I'd just like to add it manages to help with some exposure and repetition at the very least. I'm sure you're more knowledgeable than myself with learning languages, but I've been using Duolingo to learn Japanese for a little while now and have managed to pick out basic hiragana and katakana here and piece together small words.

I don't have any delusions that I'll be fluent if I finish this course, but if it can help me learn the characters it's worth the time to me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

A lot of people reduce Duolingo to their app, but they offer a big website on which you get a lot of explanations

[–] original2 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] Massada42 8 points 2 years ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Comprehensible input, lots of it. Classes, grammar books ,flash cards, and the like are useful supplements, but only a lot of time with the language works in the long run.

[–] mylampisawesome 22 points 2 years ago

I can’t recommend Language Transfer highly enough! It’s completely free too.

https://www.languagetransfer.org/

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I think my all time favorite for learning a new language is language transfer. Though, I don't see a polish or Japanese option, sadly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Have you tried this? Learning a language by listening to 5-10 minutes each day seems too good to be true but I might give it a shot 😄

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

If you like Duolingo's style, which I honestly do (I mix it with podcasts on the road), then there's probably no close enough alternative.

If you want an open source version because of the ads, just go to your phone settings and set a "private DNS" with dns.adguard.com. There are other options too, but I'll leave them for you to discover. This will filter out most ads on many apps and websites, such as Duolingo.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Most modern textbooks include a CD (or download code) with listening and pronounciation activities.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

A Spanish person lol

I'm for open source, but something like Duolingo doesn't really bother me if it's closed source

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Excuse me while I go fork a Spanish speaker.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

I think we just call that giving birth

[–] original2 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I get what you mean, but the speaking excersizes involve them recording me speak. That is kinda sketchy in my opinion. It also uses adverts, so transparency is kinda important (again, in my opinion)

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

Well you can check your privacy policy to see what they do with that. I doubt they can get much personal data from that. Jk they're going to clone you with AI and steal your bank info.

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