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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

OK all those articles are 5+ years old, what have you got for current positions? Seems like Harris has been speaking out more often in support of Gaza and has even refused to meet with Netanyahu. Even back in March she was speaking critically of Israel.

Meanwhile Trump constantly waffles on the issue while refusing to actually make a choice. Of course he has a history of absolute support for Israel, and has told donors that if he's reelected he would completely crush all protests that support Palestinians.

So what exactly are you trying to do here? Point out that both candidates have shown support for Israel in the past? Call attention to Trump's continued recent support for Israel and stated position of stamping out domestic protests while taking away even more rights of US citizens? It seems pretty obvious to me that if you want anything at all to change around Gaza, there is only one candidate who has even shown compassion for their position this year.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

She re-affirmed every position she had a few years ago. What makes you think her position has changed in any way?

Seems like Harris has been speaking out more often in support of Gaza

Source?

has even refused to meet with Netanyahu.

Source? As her party clarified in the image above, the only reason is because she's in a different city, not because of any refusal.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Here's a couple quick discussions about Harris's current position on Gaza: https://time.com/7001874/kamala-harris-donald-trump-biden-gaza/ https://www.nbcnews.com/investigations/harris-may-willing-criticize-netanyahu-biden-rcna162954

And yep, a little more checking about refusing to meet with Netanyahu does actually come back to what happened this week. I thought I had seen something about a actual refusal earlier this Spring but I can't find it again so that was probably a mis-read on my part.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

The NBC one cites a random person from a think-tank, not her own words or actions. The article is forced to concede:

After Israel came under attack by a wave of Iranian drones and missiles in April, for example, Harris spoke of America’s “ironclad” support of Israel’s security. She said in a social media post that “we stand with the people of Israel in defense against these attacks.”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You wanna revise this at all? Took literally 2 days for you to be proven wrong, even after we gave you evidence of years of her support for Israel.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

There was reason to have a moment of hope, but she fell in line with all the other politicians. Still doesn't change the fact that Trump has exactly the same position, so we really can't separate the candidates based on their stance of genocide... Unless you also want to bring Ukraine into the discussion, where Trump has previously stated he would end all support for Ukraine and back Russia's genocide.