This isn't anything to do with collapse.
this post was submitted on 23 Jul 2024
15 points (94.1% liked)
Collapse
583 readers
31 users here now
This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.
Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.
RULES
1 - Remember the human
2 - Link posts should come from a reputable source
3 - All opinions are allowed but discussion must be in good faith.
4 - No low effort, high volume and low relevance posts.
Related lemmys:
- /c/green
- /c/antreefa
- /c/gardening
- /c/[email protected]
- /c/[email protected]
- c/[email protected]
- /c/biology
- /c/criseciv
- /c/eco
- Old posts https://lemmy.ml/c/collapse
founded 9 months ago
MODERATORS
Gaza is also an image of the past. What's happening in Gaza isn't anything new. Or haven't you been paying attention to the barbarity of humanity?
Edit: "In Palestine, Israeli necropolitics produces subjects marked for surveillance, containment, displacement and extermination." Same old, same old..
The difference would be the tech and the ocean of media it all floats in.
LOL the bloodlust, the pain and the death are all the same. The technology and the media don't change that and they never will. They're irrelevant.
Sure they do, the tech makes it all the more deadly and impersonal. You get remote oppression, deadly robots, big bombs, but also precision death - your own personal haunting, as you are chased to death by a small drone with a gun.
The media in which this happens is a constant source of alienation and insanity from all the isolation and subjective experience. You don't even get to commiserate and your cries of horror and pain aren't just muffled, they're inverted and turned into fantasy fulfillment and marketing materials.
All of this is also more efficient, faster, better, smarter, bigger, and thus you have nowhere to really hide.
You rarely get to see your killer, to face them, to look into their eyes. The same goes for them; to them you're not an enemy, you're a pest. They don't see you, they see a few moving pixels on a screen, at best.
Sure they do
Nothing you've said here is about a difference in bloodlust, pain or death.
the tech makes it all the more deadly
I've no idea what "it" you're referring to. You're introducing some new concept which isn't what we were communicating about.
That was also my immediate thought. My rationalization for letting it stand is that wars are an integral part of the collapse process. A graphic reminder about how real wars look like never hurts.
However, one example and one reminder is quite enough.
My rationalization for letting it stand is that wars are an integral part of the collapse process.
You're not wrong but that seems like a tenuous rationalisation to me. It's a slippery slope. Can we post anything to do with war here now? What about protests? Are any protests fair game? Complaining about splinters (you can get splinters from cutting wood for fuel)? Cobbling (you might have to replace shoe soles due to walking miles to a water source every day)? Ad nauseum..
Yeah, I'm aware of it being a cheap rationalization. And I've been removing some posts which were farther down the slope, slippery or not.
We have had precious few posters other than me here, so I will err on the soft side to not put them off. Should the volume pick up the filtering will become stricter.
Good thing they could write it then!
I've already seen enough footage to easily visualize all of that. The people of Gaza are almost like an experiment in generational trauma. If there's ever peace and the climate doesn't wipe out the region, it will take centuries to heal.