Friendly reminder that this is the man who said people should stay in unhappy marriages, even violent ones.
The silver lining is that Vance is not the best choice electorally; he doesn’t make the platform appear any more moderate in the slightest.
this post was submitted on 15 Jul 2024
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Yes. Though in this particular instance it could actually play out in the democrats favor; I don’t think Vance will necessarily be adding any votes to the ticket.
Of the past three weeks, it’s probably the only mistake Trump has made, and the democrats honestly needed a break. Time will tell…
I think Trump could choose a literal street hooker that he picked up off the corner on the way to a rally and it wouldn't change anyone's mind. So, sorry that I don't share your optimism, but I don't think it's a mistake.
Eh, I don’t think I would call it optimism lol. They still have a very good chance of winning and Vance is worse than Pence (while it’s a very a very low bar, he at least stood up to Trump in the end). Vance will be Trump’s lapdog.
I only think he does not help Trump’s chances electorally; his stance on divorce is easily exploitable. Wanting women to stay in violent marriages “for the good of the children” is a completely boneheaded thing to say out loud (in addition to just being a deplorable stance overall).
I assume the electoral logic is that he's from Ohio?
Eh, not really. Ohio is unfortunately pretty red now and is projected to be as difficult for democrats to win as Texas. It’s also is not one of the three states Biden absolutely must win to defeat Trump - those states are Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania.
I suppose it could be argued that he could appeal better to the midwest at-large, but Vance has some really hard-right viewpoints (such as his views on divorce) that may energize “blue” voters and turn “purple” voters off to the ticket.
All conjecture right now… only time will tell.
Will Vance really energise blue voters and turn off purples in a way that Trump doesn't already though? I can't picture how someone is considering voting for Trump but then changes their mind because his VP is an extremist - were they not paying attention to who's at the top of the ticket?
There are republicans who may otherwise vote and make excuses for Trump that may actually take offense to being told to stay in a violent marriage; in particular, republican women who are anti-abortion may be supportive of no-fault divorce and against domestic violence. I don’t anticipate these will vote blue, but it may discourage some from voting.
Purple voters may hold to the same logic, but are not beholden to the republican party and are open to democrats. This would be where I’d expect it could have the most impact.
Blue voters disenchanted with Biden just have another reason to take a stand against Trump. I would expect the lowest change here.
Only time will tell, of course, but I think publicly coming out against no-fault divorce is a boneheaded move. It won’t decide the election, but it is something I think democrats can take advantage of.