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A Song Of Ice And Fire

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[–] ThePowerOfGeek 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So those four dragon eggs that Rhaenyra sends to Essos in this episode... Are three of them gifted to Danerys several decades later? Did we just see how Drogon, Viserion, and Rhaegal ended up so far away from Dragonstone?

[–] dornad 6 points 4 months ago

It seems that way (at least according to HBO)... in book lore, it is hinted that Danny's dragons are the eggs stolen during Jaehaerys' reign by Elissa Farman.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek 7 points 4 months ago

The "oopsie poopsie" reveal at the end of the episode made me laugh. I didn't think they would revisit Alicent's misinterpretation of what delirious Viserys said on his deathbed, but I'm glad they did.

This is why it's important to pay attention to the deep lore, Queen Dowager!

[–] MimicJar 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The balls on Rhynera to go to King's Landing and meet with Allicent.

She truly does not want war, but it's happening.

[–] dornad 3 points 4 months ago

Ballsy.... she is learning from "chaos hoodie" Daemon.

[–] dornad 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Things I liked

  • Intro updated! Jaehaerys and Rat-catchers shown. Luke's death no longer shown 😔
  • Braken v Blackwood!
  • Rhaenys keep speaking truths.
  • "It's a big chair, made of swords" - Daemon cracks me up.
  • Ulf is growing on me.
  • I love how we were shown a gruesome after-battle in the Riverlands, and everyone is basically saying "That was a cheeky skirmish between the Brackens and Blackwoods"
  • Loved seeing "little" Moondancer.
  • It seems we're walking towards evil stepmother and Maegor with Teats after all/

Weird Things / Random Thoughts

  • That was Bloody Ben, right ?
  • Hull is everyone's favorite shit-talking uncle.
  • That was Alys Rivers over a Harrenhal, right ?
  • Did.... they make Aegon's posse from the previous episodes the new KG ?
  • It's been a while since I read F&B, but I don't recall Daemon getting prophetic/dragon dreams.
  • Wait... is the show implying that the curse of Harrenhall could be tied to the weirwoods ?
  • The premise of the secret Sept meeting is ridiculous, but the scene itself was great.
  • I am not buying "Seasmoke is acting out because it's bored" - I think this might be a sign that something happened to Laenor.
  • I appreciate that the "misunderstanding" angle in HotD is being sidelined. While misunderstandings did play a role in the events leading up to this point, the conversation at the Sept makes it clear that Alicent knows Viserys didn't truly want Aegon to be king. At this stage, Alicent's actions are more about ignorance, greed, ambition, and other emotions that have entangled her and the rest of the characters deeply..

spoilerDaemon Sleepwalking ... was it induced by time-traveling Bran ? Bloodraven ?


[–] ThePowerOfGeek 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Did.... they make Aegon's posse from the previous episodes the new KG ?

'They' being Aegon? Yes, yes he did. Because he (and his pals) are all dimwits.

-Wait... is the show implying that the curse of Harrenhall could be tied to the weirwoods ?

I was wondering that too. Also, I found it curious that the entire area around the weirwood tree was burned so badly that the stone melted (during the destruction of the castle years earlier), yet the tree itself was fine. My question: does that indicate that weirwood is impervious to dragon fire?

[–] dornad 4 points 4 months ago

My question: does that indicate that weirwood is impervious to dragon fire?

I'm unsure. My theory is that Ryan Condal (and GRRM by extension) are hinting at the magical properties of weirwood and, more specifically, that it could harm dragons.

During Aegon's Conquest, Brandon Snow (Torrhen Stark's bastard brother) offered to cross the Trident alone at night, sneak into the Targaryen camp, and assassinate the dragons while they slept. So, at the very least, Brandon thought he had something powerful enough (and maybe fireproof—or at least resistant) to get the job done.

The connection to Weirwood might be in ADwD. In that book, one of the visions Bran has through the Winterfell heart tree is of "a pale, fierce, and dark-eyed young man" slicing three branches off the weirwood and shaping them into arrows. I've read before that this may be Brandon Snow, preparing Weirwood arrows to kill the three Targaryen dragons.