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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Hi there! I'm @hitstun and I'm sure everyone here has seen @FloatingIsFun show up in their /all feeds as I repost the entire contents of /r/FloatingIsFun into it. This is even worse for Lemmy users, because Lemmy thinks all my posts are two hours newer than the newest thing a Lemmy user has posted. This happens whether I post to a Lemmy community, a Kbin magazine, or a Kbin microblog.

If you go to any Lemmy instance and sort its home page by "New" or "New comment", the top ones are going to be all Fedia.io users it says posted in the future. I raised this issue in @kbinMeta and it seems to be all Fedia users.

Possibly the server's time zone is being used incorrectly? I'm in US Eastern Daylight Time (UTC-4) and I submitted this post at 1:27pm (13:27) local time. On Fedia, when I mouseover the "minutes ago" on this post, it correctly says I posted at 17:27 UTC. Somehow, all the Lemmy instances are getting it wrong.

[–] LilDumpy 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol. I was definitely close to blocking you/that community. Why is there so much Floating is Fun Content? Why is that even a sub/community?

Plus that one picture of all the rubber duckies in the bathroom ("poltergeist", I think), hardly counts as floating imo. Lol jk

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So, I'm easily distracted by things that float in the air. Nothing alters my view of reality more than a thing that doesn't fall to the floor when I let go of it. Realistic things like bubbles, magnets, and astronauts, but also fantasy characters and environments. These things remind me of the feeling of floating I get when swimming in a pool, playing with a balloon, or flying around like a ghost in my dreams. I would totally befriend a poltergeist if fun physically impossible things could happen around me. I want to collect these things and learn more about myself through them.

I couldn't find any communities of likeminded airheads, so I created one myself on Reddit. Over the past two years, We've accumulated 400+ posts of content from several art and video communities into one well-tagged and categorized archive. I want this collection to outlive Reddit.

When the whole Reddit API crisis started, there was a movement of "You own your Reddit contributions, use scripts to download everything and then delete it from Reddit." I don't see a need to wipe out the original subreddit, but if Reddit is going to destroy itself, the collection needs to live on on Reddit's successors. After all, I never got to post some of the best floaty stuff I have.

Now, I thought I could quietly create a Kbin magazine and manually repost all 400+ Reddit posts before I attract any attention. Then, sometime in early August, I'd announce that we've moved to Kbin and all new posts will go here. Well, it turns out Kbin has this time zone bug, and as soon as one Lemmy instance federated with my community, it blew up! Now we're like an airship that broke free from its mooring lines before it was ready to launch. Now I can't just repost things as fast as I can because it will spam up the /all feeds for Lemmy users like you.

[–] LilDumpy 3 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the thoughtful response. TBH your community was slowly growing on me and now I have a better understanding of your community. Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's interesting you point out that the time is always the instance for your account even when posting to a federated magazine. That makes sense since you're posting to a local copy which then goes out to the source, but I guess I didn't expect it to take the incoming timezone from the copy.

That makes me wonder if the opposite is true, if you posted from lemmy to fedia if the timezone would be in the past (or correct as it were). If so you could potentially be able to continue posting from a lemmy account, but of course I imagine you want to be the OP (on this account) for the posts being brought over so I'm not quite suggesting to do that

[–] freecandy 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's all weird cartoons though

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Mostly weird cartoons. Anime art communities are pretty good about giving credit and tagging and stuff, so it's way easier to find floaty anime art than any other kind of floaty stuff. It's kind of a crutch and I try to track down non-anime things when I can. I wish my posts were more like half fantasy and half real.

[–] A_A 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because of this bug I have already blocked 3 communities, all of them from this instance [email protected] these are :

[email protected]  
Floating Is [email protected]  
League of Legends Fan [email protected]
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sorry. I was afraid my @FloatingIsFun posts would start to annoy people because of this. The last thing I want to do is force my niche fandom upon people who aren't into it. I hope Lemmy users won't be forced to block all of fedia.io because of this bug,

[–] A_A 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I will unblock all of these as soon as the bug is corrected.
Thanks for your time and efforts 😌 !
P.S. : I see your reply 2h in future ( also with mouse over time ) before the (~immediate) reply I gave to you

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yup, it's the timezone. I ran into this problem on https://feed.timeloop.tv/comment/5916
There's an open PR about this at https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/3496

For now, the only way to fix this is for Fedia to set their timezone to UTC both for the system and the postgresql database.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ah, thank you. I thought there was a report about this bug on GitHub somewhere, but I was looking in kbin-core instead of LemmyNet. Does Fedia.io have any kind of official bug reporting system?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The official bug reporting system is @jerry

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you. I posted the issue to Codeberg here. My first real bug report! I hope I did it right.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

woah, #kbin is not jailed in #github or #gitlab.com-- how cool is that! Finally a project where I feel free to contribute bug reports.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hey! I think this has been fixed on Lemmy's side. I posted a comic on fedia.io and it timestamped correctly on lemmy.world, lemm.ee, and bookwormstory.social. I updated the Codeberg issue with this.

[–] MrBeastReal 1 points 1 year ago

Proof you can time travel with time zones

[–] kadu 1 points 1 year ago

Well, perhaps their servers are moving at vastly different speeds than ours, near objects with very different mass

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