this post was submitted on 15 May 2024
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (25 children)

It's almost like we can't make a machine conscious until we know what makes a human conscious, and it's obvious Emergentism is bullshit because making machines smarter doesn't make them conscious

Time to start listening to Roger Penrose's Orch-OR theory as the evidence piles up - https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.jpcb.3c07936

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Throwing out emergentism because some linear algebra failed to replicate it is a pretty bad take.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You're right that consciousness and intelligence are not the same. Our language tends to conflate the two.

However, evolution created consciousness over billions of years by emergent factors and no source of specific direction besides being more successful at reproduction. We can likely get there orders of magnitude faster than evolution could. The big problem would be recognizing it for what it is when it's here.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (11 children)

@frezik @HawlSera

> We can likely get there orders of magnitude faster than evolution could

[Citation needed]

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

this thread enters the pantheon of things I'll occasionally return to when I need a laugh, joining the likes of bash.org (rip) and other qdbs

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

It does every couple of years, remains to be seen if this one is permanent. Has been a while though…

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

I never had any doubt

[–] antidote101 3 points 8 months ago

I just assumed that train on an answer sheet could probably get you past most tests.

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