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I'm excited about this MPL licensed tool and wanted to share; it's aiming to be a replacement to Notion, but self-hosted. It's not as feature rich (still in Beta) but it's a modern KMS/Collaboration tool that's looks to be on par with other proprietary options in the market. They seem to have some sort of capital backing because they have a team working on development.

My concern is how the pricing model will work and what features they will lock. They say that it will be free to self-host, but I feel like they will lock some features (most definitely their cloud service.) But if they only lock cloud hosting but allow self-hosting it will be pretty amazing for the self-hosting community.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If it's not FOSS I'll stick with Logseq, thanks. I'm trying to transition everything I do online and on computers in general to FOSS.

[–] wAkawAka 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The real FOSS alternative to Notion is called AppFlowy. And it already has a docker.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you used appflowy? How would you say it compares so far?

[–] wAkawAka 1 points 1 year ago

Well, it's still pretty rough because it's in early development stage, but blazingly fast thanks to Rust (and Dart?). And seeing how active development is right now gives good hopes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

AppFlowy isn't web based? I couldn't find an option to just run a server and access it via browser anywhere in the install instructions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

AppFlowy isn’t web based?

Interesting, I feel exactly the opposite. I'm far less inclined to use a web based tool. For a backend sync/storage or admin interface to a server? Sure. But for the user interface/business logic? Let me run it locally as a native program. To each their own I guess.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I need to be able to access it from both phone and PC, and in emergency from a random PC/phone. Also, I used the "share as web link" a lot in notion.

In addition it would be nice to be able to access it at work without having to install anything.

[–] wAkawAka 1 points 1 year ago

They have a separate repository for the server.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Certainly can be more than one.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

It is FOSS, it's MPL licensed and the source code is on github.

[–] bjeanes 3 points 1 year ago

If they allow me to have multiple clients and multiple users but syncing with my own server, then that'll be sweet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Would this work as a note taking solution? I moved from notion.so to synology note station and while it works it leaves a lot to be desired.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm using it for notes yeah. I switched from Obsidian to it, but it's still missing some features, for example their table functionality isn't up to par with Notion or AppFlowy yet.

[–] Max17 1 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately it seems it does not work with Firefox right now... For anyone wondering why the page stays in an infinite loading, this seems to be the reason: https://github.com/toeverything/AFFiNE/issues/2464

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ive been using synologys note station which is a poor replacement for sure. Ill have to check out both affine and appflowy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I don't think that Note Station has been updated (other than maybe security patches) for years. I tried it when I was looking for an Evernote replacement and was shocked how basic it is.

Sure I'm not going to be the first one to ask you this but have you tried Obsidian?