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Can we see somewhere what instances block us?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

feddit.de does (https://feddit.de/instances) due to fmhy being open registration

although not blocked by beehaw despite them also not liking open registration

[โ€“] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Blocking instances for having open registration is some of the weirder shit I have heard recently.

Edit: now that we have a bot problem I'm now against open registration and federating with instances with open registration lol

[โ€“] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

2 questions.

  1. Fmhy.ml is an entirely separate instance from Lemmy.ml right? Lil confused cuz those are the only ones I've seen ending in ml

  2. What instance do we have blocked?

Eta: lemmygrad is the one blocked instance here, personally not gonna miss em.

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago
  1. Yes.
  2. Yeah, Lemmygrad is the only one right now for obvious reasons.
[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

yes entirely separate. unless the entire "lemmy.fmhy.ml" is identical its a difference instance

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I read it before seeing this post

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Will fmhy also defederate beehaw?

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

No, we'll only block extreme instances.

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Instances have different purposes and for beehaw, maintaining community standards is more important to them then wider federation, they also explicitly said it was a bandwidth issue for their mod team, that as things settle and tools get better for modding within Lemmy itself theyโ€™ll reassess. I donโ€™t find that particulary unusual but Iโ€™m also a Mastadon user and thatโ€™s very common over there

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Exactly what I was thinking. For Lemmy being an alternative to Reddit, yet instances have closed registrations. That is a way to get people not to sign up.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Looks like this is the only 'big' instance blocking us so far. It feels weird, but I guess this is something we'll need to get used to

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Not anymore, apparently

[โ€“] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

That would be nice, since I chose FMHY as my main instance.

[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If someone blocks fmhy, do they block โ€œusโ€ as in we canโ€™t see their server or do they just block the posts originating from fmhy?

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

we can see feddit.de but they cannot see us

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Are you sure about that? I understood it the way that the defederation works in both directions.
You cant see the content from the other instance and they cant see yours.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I even recently commented on a post of theirs from here not knowing we're cut out. Now it will hang on my profile, presumably reaching them never.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

you can see for yourself that we see feddit.de stuff: https://lemmy.fmhy.ml/comment/131623

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

That's a good question

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I find this hard to navigate and use, but this should be able to show which instances block fmhy: https://lemmymap.feddit.de/

You can see what instances FMHY blocks by clickling the "instances" link at the bottom of the page (or just here: https://lemmy.fmhy.ml/instances)

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Hmm, I wonder what lemmygrad did to deserve the ban here? I see they are a pretty hardcore Marxist instance, but curious if it's just an ideology thingy with the admins here or if they did something to piss them off? It doesn't appear to be mutual lemmygrad shares this instance, and they have a TON of others banned lol

[โ€“] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it's not that they're hardcore marxists but that they are tankies, you can find a lot of discussions about this out there

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ideologically consistent Marxists, even tankies, wouldn't support the capitalist imperialism of modern Russia.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

are they Marxist-Leninists (MLs)? like flagging Stalin etc and Communist Party stuff?

i'm a Marxist anarchist and i'm just wondering if fmhy is a good server for my social circle. banning Marxists is not a good look (upon first reaction)

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, you can go look at lemmygrad. I did when deciding which server to make an account on and found a bunch of people posting in support of current day not communist at all Russia. That goes beyond Marxism-Leninism into just supporting a neoliberal imperialist regime because it's not the American neoliberal imperialist regime.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

oo dam CCP propaganda etc. ya that's not commie shit. FMHY is fine for me.

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

If you check posts and comments here you will understand why they were blocked

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lemmygrad is blocked on all instances i have acc on this is 4 and growing.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

hahaha this looks like a great idea, but I can't see sh*t in there :D

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not sure, I think the only way to know is to be an admin on the other instance (or if they say what instances are blocked)

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Most instances publish their blocklists. Admins would be very angry if i would send a crawler to get lists of federated and blocked instances? It wouldn't load single instance too much. Just two files.

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