I thought about trying to make one but realized I despise responsibility.
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I respect that so much. Despising responsibility I mean.
Lol same here, I made a community and then realized it is so much effort to get it kick-started (posting a lot of content relevant content there continuously to attract people to join). So I kind of abandoned it and decided to post/comment a lot on existing communities instead.
Only those who feel obliged to act responsibly despise responsibility.
That's a pleasant compliment lol
Same here... And at the same time I'm languishing over the fact that I want to talk about the thing, but there is no magazine for it....
Just as a PSA to everyone, they actually do populate automatically with microblog posts (from Mastodon for example) if you add relevant tags to the magazine.
I’ve had a couple issues posting picture threads so I suspect that’s why some are dark.
In any case, gotta remember it’s not like all the content is generated by the mod. Find something you like, start adding content. People will start to snowball in once your posts land in “new”.
How do you search the popular tags? I made a korean language magazine and wondering which is more commonly used between "language" or "languages"
also, what are badges? I see that next to the option to add tags to a magazine
they actually do populate automatically with microblog posts (from Mastodon for example) if you add relevant tags
Thank you! This is a great piece of info to know.
I did post to m/fountainpens precisely because it was there, so it kind of is a bit of a "build and hope they come" situation. I just wish these people would just bother to actually build the community. A welcome post. Some articles. Anything!
It's always the same story with you pen people! Always waiting for Mr/Mrs Write to just magically show up.
m/AngryUpvote
Interesting, m/MAGAZINENAME links don't work.
@Warped I think we have here a big potential issue. Magazines have been created and the moderator hasn't post yet anything. After some days it is difficult to believe that she/he is taking responsibility of them.
The result is that everyone can post there without any moderation, and become a quite unsafe area. I think if a magazine has been opened and in a few days there is not post of the moderator, it should be deleted.
I think there's probably a lot of people that are just new and don't know what they are doing yet. They are excited to be on a new platform and want to be part of the big new thing. They want to create a space they are interested in for other people to contribute in. And I think that's pretty neat.
There's probably some people just squatting and hoping to scoop up all the big ones, but I'd like to give people the benefit of the doubt here. Let them be excited!
It makes me not want to post in those subs. It's as if I was working for someone else. If you have no interest in a subject to the point that you have nothing to say about it then don't take the admin position in the first place.
There are more than 500 people registered to /m/interestingasfuck, with zero post, nothing, absolutely nothing posted there. So don't say that this kind of behavior is for facilitating the experience. It is to gather virtual points of fame. They create it because they think it's gonna get big, not out of interest or to facilitate anything. I don't want this kind of person to moderate the subs I like.
Yeah, they probably grabbed any highly popular "subreddit" names just for some weird power grab. The good thing is when federation is working again someone who actually wants to make a good magazine for one of those can make it on another instance and any other kbin instance can subscribe to it.
I honestly feel like this is slightly cynical, because I think it’s much more likely that someone was coming to a new platform and looking for a specific community that they enjoyed lurking on in the past. Once they got here and saw it wasn’t created, they created it themselves in the hope that other people (or maybe even themselves in the future) would work together to populate it with content. While this is not necessarily super helpful to building the community, it does have some value because someone now can come along and find a magazine with an audience already prepared for content, instead of having to build it themselves.
Most people who landed on Reddit found not just a place for their interests and questions, but a community already there, already active. People entered a hive of discussion and narratives already in progress.
Here and now, there is fumbling in the dark to be expected, and with no muscle memory of this, so far much quieter place, which has the drywall and plumbing and electrical still a bit exposed.
There's also a surge of folks understanding that the communities they loved might become inaccessible via Reddit fuckery, or even that replacements on other platforms need to exist so that if people go looking - it exists for them to join.
Communities are rarely self-building, but having a readily accessible and intuitive subreddit/magazine name for your topic certainly helps - you need to have enough traffic and enough activity that there's something happening when a newbie stumbles across your space. Getting the on-point keyword really makes a huge difference in that.
The random magazine sidebar suggested the completely empty m/cumsluts and I suspect that some people are making magazines in the hopes of attracting certain posts or just doing it for the lols
A lot of it is Redditors just remaking their old subs and hoping others from the sub will find them
Speaking as the person who made @MuseumOfKbin, I really just wanted the magazine to exist but I didn't have anything to put in it yet. Since like, Kbin is brand new. But if anyone wants to take it over from me please please just let me know, I have no desire to mod this thing long term.
Ive made a couple magazines in an attempt to get back some of the discussion I liked reading on reddit. If the old moderators emerge I'd hand them over.
Same. But then I tried to delete them and found that I can’t because they haven’t enabled magazine deletion. So TIFU I guess.
DItto.
If it helps, I created /m/seafoamsadness because it was an idea I wanted to make a sub, but never got the time or motivation to. I mainly expected it to be an extremely niche/dead sub. However its an aesthetic I find fairly interesting and decided now is the time to take the plunge. I do plan to add more examples as separate posts as soon as I find them.
I feel it is partly due to many smaller communities having no presence here (clearly, with no magazine existing already) and wanting to make the transition as easy as possible for others. I myself have just created /m/multicopter as I didn't see any sort of fpv drone or other rc aircraft magazine. I'm debating whether or not to backfill it with link posts from the corresponding subreddits to try and kickstart it, or to only post some of my own content.
I started /m/burgers and I have plenty of pics to share, but when my mouse stops hovering over the button to add a picture, I can't actually upload one.
Where were you trying to add it? In the body text or toward the bottom where there is an image button?
Image button
And when you click upload does it seem to do nothing? That's what I was experiencing. Then I finally clicked the submit button... I forget the exact text of the button, for the article and it worked. I'm not sure if it uploaded before that as I got no confirmation.
It won't even allow me to select a photo to upload as the menu disappears when my mouse moves to click the "Upload" button
Clicking the button should keep the dialog box open for upload, weirdly hovering does seem to work for me but maybe that's a browser thing (or it's different for comments, idk)? Upload from url is not working yet if that was what you were trying.
Tried clicking too, no luck. I'm on Safari, could be the issue.
It is frustrating finding magazines I think I would be interested in, but devoid of any posts. Not even a welcome post.
I didn't even think of that. Just a welcome post would be so nice.
I created a magazine and added a welcome post that ended up as a microblog... some of us are just learning. I hear ya though, many are empty right now.
I get it. My first post to a magazine was accidentally a microblog. I do check for those though
Kbin definitely needs to have some sort of means to apply to the admins to take control of a dead 'zine that will inevitably come from the mass creation of 'zines, kinda like how r*ddit has a way for people to apply to mod dead subs. I'm sure there are a lot of prime 'zines that someone will make and forget about that a community would like to have.
In the end kbin needs more development to allow mods to foster community and remove zero purpose mods that exist in power vacuums. How is development on the website by the way? Is the developer fairly involved?
Don't think Ernest has slept in like four days, actually. Haven't actually seen a post from him in a couple days but all evidence points towards him working feverishly to improve the site and software.
I bet. What confuses me is by all means kbin.social is a singular instance, we don't want centralization just on this server, so how would other instances access magazines that are created here? Basically, how would you have magazines synced across instances?