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Why would communist support capitalists like Putin and Xi-Jinping which aren't better than Liberal-capitalists ?

I am all in for stopping liberal capitalism, but I am more interested in implementing a happinex index like Buthan than living in oligarch-capitalist-regime like Russia/China

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Basically they’ve bought into the idea that the West, neoliberal capitalists to the core, is the root of all evils, so the leaders opposing the West must be good. Unfortunately, the enemy of my enemy isn’t my friend when it comes to geopolitics.

[–] McJonalds 1 points 1 year ago

everyone is my enemy

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago

Because they can't go beyond "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" level of logic.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

By the mental gymnastics they have applied to make Stalins brand of communism into their ideal they have actually learned to embrace authoritarianism.

They think that the only way that communism can be manifested is by first destroying the western capitalist society and they think Putin and Xi will help in this endeavor.

It's quite delusional (as both are openly embracing capitalism) and quite the opposite of how Marx thought communism would take place, but that's what they seem to think.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't understand either, I want capitalism to stop but not by making life worse like that

[–] wimpysocks 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Capitalism, just knock it off dude

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Really, why he gotta be like that

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because for them hate for the west comes first and foremost, and after that comes their ideology. That’s why anyone who opposes the west is good in their eyes.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

They're authoritarian and they hate the west. Of course they're appealing to communists.

Western commies idolising brutal authoritarian regimes is nothing new.

[–] Candelestine 3 points 1 year ago

Basically because there's enough people on the planet that some are going fall into any camp that gets created. People seek their own identities, which sometimes involves moving away from things other people are believing in.

Possibly an adaptation to keep the species from getting too complacent, which we're a little inclined towards otherwise, probably due to our social nature. It's a vulnerable state though, can't have the whole species going extinct every time an ice age comes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's bizarre. Both countries have moved away from communism. Russia is ruled by oligarchs. Xi-Jinping's stated goals are to move China to a modern socialist nation while staying in keeping with China's culture. His actions are the opposite—China has become more and more capitalist while maintaining authoritarian leadership.

[–] ZeroCarbon 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Comparing China to Russia is laughable. I know this doesn't answer your question but I always find interesting when certain people make this this type of comparison.

One has a competent government the other doesn't.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All the more perplexing that there’s Putin support.