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What's the lemmy.ml stance on moderation of political / geopolitical posts? (self.meta)

submitted 1 year ago by mo_ztt to c/[email protected]

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So I'm part of a discussion about moderation on lemmy.ml, and it seems better to ask the community directly instead of continuing to speculate from a distance: What's the attitude here towards political debate and specifically criticism of the Chinese government? Is that allowed, or will mods delete it?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From what I’ve seen criticism is allowed.

Here let me try and take the bullet for you: I dislike the way China handles internet censorship and the way people in China casually circumvent it is proof that the whole endeavor was farcical to begin with.

If I don’t get banned and this comment doesn’t get removed, then I guess that’ll answer your question.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nice! A moderation canary. If you stop seeing particular posts from a particular user, then you know they got moderated.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You can also check the modlog which is linked at the bottom of every page

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Check this post: https://lemmy.ml/post/1167199

[+] [email protected] -6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Wow... Are there any good instances that aren't run by tankies?

I came here from reddit and picked lemmy.ml without much thought, but if even the largest instances are run by genocide apologists, that doesn't bode well for the rest of the site.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't care about criticizing China, but my brother in christ, the "genocide" lie was debunked so long ago, that it doesn't surprise me that China supporters get pissed every time they see someone still spreading that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure you don't. And yes I forgot, those Uyghurs just fell down the stairs ¯⁠\⁠_⁠༼⁠ ⁠•́⁠ ͜⁠ʖ⁠ ⁠•̀⁠ ⁠༽⁠_⁠/⁠¯

I love how specific this got, I didn't even mention or refer to china specifically. There are quite a few communist regimes and genocides to choose from.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Uyghurs falling down stairs? I would love to read more on that very serious and real problem. Oh, and how could I have guessed you were talking about the exact same subject of the comment you were replying to? Very specific indeed.

Anyway, now I see you're just a troll purposefully spreading sinophobia, sorry for misjudging your character for someone well intended before.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm sure they have a story on the topic in your party's newspaper.

It is not against chinese people/sinophobia to criticise the chinese totalitarian government. But you useful idiots don't seem to grasp/pretend not to grasp that distinction.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

kbin.social, different platform not associated with tankies.

It shares content with Lemmy and the rest of the fediverse

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I will look into that, thanks! I am very new to this whole fediverse thing, but will a kbin account work with a lemmy app like jerboa? kbin doesn't seem to have an app of its own (yet)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No jerboa doesn't support kbin accounts and there's no kbin app ready yet, I believe it's being worked on.

However the kbin website works quite well on mobile and I believe you can install it as a "progressive web app" which is like taking the website and making it an app with a shortcut.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Ah I see! Great tip, will try that out. I guess more apps will start to pop up if this fediverse thing takes off catalysed by the whole reddit shit show.

I really like the idea of the fediverse, and decentralisation is much better than putting all control in the hands of some corporation/person with large ego.

But it is a bit confusing to get into, and it will probably not get as large as reddit (which might be a good thing).

[–] mo_ztt 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So... just FWIW, I've been talking about China and North Korea, a little bit, in posts on both lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml, and as far as I can tell nothing's been deleted and I haven't been banned. I'm not saying the moderation Habnab linked to didn't happen, but that doesn't mean it's universal in the present day on lemmy.ml, and it hasn't been my experience.

This post on lemmy.world actually was removed, but that seems more likely to do with "I don't want this debate here" and less to do with "I object to one particular side of this debate."

I'm still on the fence about the "Is this an actual problem" question, just sharing my data on it so far. YMMV