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Idk if I think lemm.ee is a good alternative. (lemm.ee)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I think this place is too fragmented into instances to ever generate a front page anywhere near what r/all is.

If I understand this page right, https://lemm.ee will never show the top post of the day from https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/, https://discuss.tchncs.de/, or https://feddit.uk/.

And the "front page/general" site is already split into several instances (https://vlemmy.net/, https://lemmy.world/, https://sh.itjust.works/, https://lemmy.fmhy.ml/ and https://lemmy.one/, all claiming to be "a general front page lemmy instance")

So what's the deal, which one are we betting on as the place to direct all the new traffic? What's the contender for primary public internet bulletin board? Right now the arrow to an alternative is looking like this: https://i.imgur.com/L1XsBy6.pngd

I'm personally guessing the conclusion is already reached; We have no place we're betting on. We're disinterested in pushing for any particular result. We don't expect people to migrate. Many might not even want them to.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If I understand this page right, https://lemm.ee will never show the top post of the day from https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/, https://discuss.tchncs.de/, or https://feddit.uk/.

The top posts from all of those instances will have a chance to appear on your front page of lemm.ee, as long as at least one lemm.ee user has previously subscribed to the community those top posts are posted on!

If you put your front page on "subscribed", then you will see posts from all communities you are subscribed to, regardless of whether these communities are lemmy.ml, feddit.uk or any other instance.

If you put your front page on "all", you will see posts from ALL communities that have at least one subscriber on lemm.ee (again, regardless of what instance these communities are housed on).

So to be clear, you have nothing to worry about! 😃

Let me know if any of this doesn't make sense, I'm happy to explain further.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Hello everybody! I'm posting from a completely different instance/website, this post showed up on my front page since someone at my place is subscribing to your Meta community and we all see your posts over here!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I would suggest the site set up the option to view the top/hot/active posts from all instances regardless of having anyone subscribed.

Or, in a hacky way, make an instance with a "bot-user" that is subscribed to every single community in every single instance (and automatically subscribes to any new community and instance that gets created), and send that page to people looking to migrate from Spez's Spazspot.

And let me be clear, I'm not really worried, just a little disappointed to see so little successful exploitation of this situation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be honest, effectively that's the result anyway, as I believe most communities that get very popular posts already have at least 1 subscriber on lemm.ee, and there's no reason to expect this trend to ever change.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't think it's a robust enough system, and it's too convoluted to make the site an easy sell to a userbase like reddit's.

I'm still not clear on whether you actually want their users, though.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So what’s the deal, which one are we betting on as the place to direct all the new traffic?

We aren't. That's the thing, there isn't a single place with lemmy. There's lots of places that all communicate between each other.

[+] [email protected] -11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As I expected. Lemmy does not want to compete.

I also expect this place to be dead and forgotten by the end of the year, a few mentions and visits on occasion, but never growing past a maximum of ~100 participants in the most active posts.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you understand how Lemmy-and the fediverse in a broader sense-works exactly? It doesn't need to compete head to head with reddit. See, back in ye olden days, reddit had a somewhat higher barrier to entry and catered to people who were more technically minded and moving away from increasingly commercialized social media platforms.

Does this sound familiar?

Lemmy has a long way to go, but coming in here and waving the white flag after less than a week is a little foolish.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Lemmy has a long way to go, but coming in here and waving the white flag after less than a week is a little foolish.

Be honest with yourself. If lemmy was an attractive alternative, you would've seen much more rapid growth these last couple days. Lemmy simply wasn't ready for prime-time when this opportunity arose, maybe it will be later.

I'll leave this here: https://old.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/149cna4/like_all_blowups_on_reddit_this_one_will_pass_as/jo4ebot/

A fun thing to point out is that this little comment has more engagement than almost every post on Lemmy. All but 10.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

If lemmy was an attractive alternative, you would’ve seen much more rapid growth these last couple days.

This didn't age well ;)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Be honest with yourself. If lemmy was an attractive alternative, you would’ve seen much more rapid growth these last couple days. Lemmy simply wasn’t ready for prime-time when this opportunity arose, maybe it will be later.

Compared to the amount of traffic before people started migrating it's doing exponentially better than it was prior lol. The fact of the matter is lemmy takes a little bit to fully understand, so there will be a barrier to entry that only early adopters will get over. Growth will be slow for sure, and lemmy might not take off. But the Fediverse as a whole seems to be the Internet's response to a increasingly corporate run social media environment.

A fun thing to point out is that this little comment has more engagement than almost every post on Lemmy. All but 10.

You have no idea how Lemmy works

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Go tell those spergs over there how Lemmy works, and see if that convinces them to change their mind.

The results speak for themselves, this is a bad new user experience and will need thorough consideration and clever restructuring. I think you're too satisfied with the fact that it's functional at all.

The Fediverse won't be any kind of meaningful response to corporate social media until you stop being satisfied with just the front row audience.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

https://lemmy.world/post/74711 - 1.11k upvotes, 221 comments
https://beehaw.org/post/518943 - 627 upvotes, 376 comments
https://lemm.ee/post/35370 - 1.47k upvotes, 420 comments(lol)

The Fediverse won’t be any kind of meaningful response to corporate social media until you stop being satisfied with just the front row audience.

You're right everyone just showed up and was like "lul good enough" Things are changing, with more interest comes more eyes and with more eyes comes more work. The programming subreddits in particular have taken to discord and various lemmy instances and began building their own infrastructure.

All I see is you complaining going 'Its too hard!!', yet contributing nothing of substance to the conversation outside of displaying your own lack of understanding of how Lemmy functions as a software.

You're welcome to migrate over to kbin.social and give it a try, I think it'll be a bit more streamlined and easier for you to figure out. Fortunately thanks to the fediverse you have that option, and we'll still be able to interact.

Give it time, friend.

Another thing to note is the upvote/comment ratio for posts. The types of people that post and comment on reddit are the ones looking to migrate. They'll find a place one way or another, and if its any of the various federated social media platforms, that content will end up here and vice versa.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We'll see, mate. You know how much faith I have in this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

If you want a page that conglomerates posts from all different instances, a la an /r/all type board, why not make it yourself?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ayy LMAO wth are you talking about?

Check stats from beehaw

Sopuli

Just some random examples, because the new BIG servers haven't even started registering on the stats. Speaking of new servers, the number of servers have DOUBLED since last month to over 160 instances.

The lemmyverse have grown like never before

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wow, it grew from dozens to hundreds!

You should've seen way more. You weren't good enough to retain anything near the potential, the majority of replies to people suggesting the fediverse as an alternative commented or upvoted sentiment indicating that that didn't like what they saw. The rest, a minority, were mostly along the lines of "It's strange, but not that bad."

It doesn't help that you promote instances that look like something from a temp-mail domain. Way to advertise.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I didn't want to keep editing my other comments so I'm making another top level- check this out! https://lemmyverse.net/

I think this is kind of what you're looking for as far as a streamlined way to browse different instances.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Visits the Fediverse for 2 days and then posts about how it's never gonna work, get in line.

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